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04-16-2014 , 01:40 PM

Valent1n

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 230

UTG: $100 (100 bb)
MP: $138.34 (138.3 bb)
CO: $25.91 (25.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): $100 (100 bb)
SB: $52.13 (52.1 bb)
BB: $119.94 (119.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J

3 folds, Hero raises to $3, SB folds, BB raises to $10, Hero calls $7

Flop: ($20.50) 2

(2 players)
BB bets $11, Hero calls $11

Turn: ($42.50) 9

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($42.50) 7

(2 players)
BB bets $32, Hero ???

22/19 3bets 12% vs BTN, fold 68% BBvsBTN
3bp cbet: 81,60,52; ck-f turn: 73, BetR: 38
WTSD 24, WWSF 48, large sample

04-16-2014 , 01:49 PM

tolis

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,465

4betting pre is an option. Btn vs blind your hand has decent sdv but it is still a trap hand, if he shows strength post u will have the 2nd best hand often. Raising flop is another option, will prob tell u where u stand.

All in all not sure, I would play the player here and act accordingly. Dynamics, his perception of you and your tendencies...

Same AP, snapping is ok under conditions. Would he attack weakness after seeing u x behind ott?

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04-16-2014 , 07:12 PM

PunnyYouSayThat

Tattoo Commissioner

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 5,097

if your checking back the turn, the river is a no brainer call

04-17-2014 , 05:03 AM

Panny1

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,548

Pre is very very standard, as is calling the Flop. And, as stated above, if you don't bet that Turn calling River seems mandatory.

04-17-2014 , 12:26 PM

djanney

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 116

we need to be betting that turn some % of the time vs. this player imo. snap river as played.

04-17-2014 , 01:25 PM

HappyPappy

newbie

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 43

Quote:

Originally Posted by tolis

4betting pre is an option.

Why do u want to turn such a nice hand against 12% 3bet? KJo ofcourse we can 4bet, but this hands looks stronger playing post flop.

River snap call

04-17-2014 , 09:48 PM

HeyOver

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 532

bet the turn

04-18-2014 , 01:02 PM

tolis

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,465

If you feel comfortable with your decisions when u hit TP flat him all day. I never said 4betting is my default anyway.

I do not know what reading skills u got but allow me to believe that with an spr of 4.5 many players will have trouble getting away from TP before commiting an amount that will make the play -ev in the long run

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04-19-2014 , 02:33 PM

brutti

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,423

Quote:

Originally Posted by tolis

I have to say that I do not like the idea of 4betting KJs here. Villain is 3betting 12%, that's wide and KJs is way ahead of that range. Think river is a call, but I don't like it. I would say in general people bombs it with bluffs more so than with value hands.

04-19-2014 , 11:07 PM

#10

fsh

enthusiast

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 54

i'd like to fold otr.
u do not beat his value range and the bet size screams for value.

04-20-2014 , 02:01 AM

#11

brutti

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,423

Quote:

Originally Posted by RU18LOL

if your checking back the turn, the river is a no brainer call

I think so too,

I also don't think 4betting KJs pre is the best option.

04-20-2014 , 01:31 PM

#12

Homey D. Clown

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,258

I would be more comfortable calling three barrels than calling this riverbet tbh. I never see someone bluffing with a bet check bet line like this (plus he could have been meaning to c/r the turn). I also agree that the sizing screams valuebet.

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