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11-23-2014 , 12:21 AM

ved

veteran

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,822

26/18, opens 50 btn , barrels 70/60/40, doesnt fold to 3bets

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem

Stacks:
UTG ($283.20) 142bb
CO ($200) 100bb
BTN ($207.20) 104bb
SB ($123) 62bb
Hero (BB) ($583.50) 292bb

Pre-Flop: ($3, 5 players) Hero is BB K

2 folds, BTN raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $2

Flop: 9

($9, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $5.60, Hero calls $5.60

Turn: Q

($20.20, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $14.39, $14.39 to Hero ($573.9)?

11-23-2014 , 01:04 AM

tofa

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 467

well c-c is kinda bad as we are never getting paid on the river if we hit our outs unless its a chop or flush over flush.. that being said I like leading or c/r this turn

11-23-2014 , 05:13 PM

hjk32

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 16

Everything tofa said. +1

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11-23-2014 , 08:23 PM

mucknuts

adept

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 785

I'd c/r flop with our hand. His cbetting range should be a little stronger on this texture but still wide enough that we should take advantage of it with such a strong draw. Would c/call Axdd.

As played turn i'd c/call again. Raising seems bad given what our opponents range should look like here, but we have enough equity to not want to fold and additionally the fair possibility of getting river value if we get there.

11-23-2014 , 09:18 PM

dg4

Coach NLHE

Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,123

call

11-24-2014 , 10:28 AM

Adzman

adept

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,153

X/r to 60ish and be prepared to ship quite a few rivers

11-24-2014 , 11:34 AM

Yoshimiii

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Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 7,669

I think options are XR turn, shove some rivers or call turn and donk all rivers, problem with latter may be that you get called often when river is a blank and not at all when you hit, so I am thinking XR turn, although it sucks when u get shipped on.

It's an interesting spot due to villain's sizing being on large size.

11-24-2014 , 12:16 PM

JaFFsTer

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 490

x/r turn to 45-60, jam everything make our hand or bricks. i like x/ring the flop here cuz Vs range is massive and we can rep a ton of hands here without capping our range

11-24-2014 , 03:36 PM

TWhelan

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Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 8,754

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshimiii

I think options are XR turn, shove some rivers or call turn and donk all rivers, problem with latter may be that you get called often when river is a blank and not at all when you hit

How is that one of your two options then lol

11-24-2014 , 05:31 PM

#10

Yoshimiii

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Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 7,669

Quote:

Originally Posted by TWhelan

How is that one of your two options then lol

Ha ye. It sounded good at first then i started to dislike it when i was typing. I dont see another line apart from xr flop or turn then

11-24-2014 , 10:44 PM

#11

Adzman

adept

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,153

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshimiii

It's an interesting spot due to villain's sizing being on large size.

It's definitely not on the large size given how drawy the board is, Id say it's closer to being on the small side if anything.

11-25-2014 , 09:27 AM

#12

TWhelan

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Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 8,754

fwiw I usually would x/c two streets here and check rivers, but I am a micro stakes rec player

11-25-2014 , 09:54 AM

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alikharimi

newbie

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 39

we x/r flop, villain 3bets, hero? do you think we got a +ev shove here? (huge trouble spot for me ever since) x/r turn seems much better to me

11-25-2014 , 10:01 AM

#14

Adzman

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Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,153

Quote:

Originally Posted by alikharimi

we x/r flop, villain 3bets, hero? do you think we got a +ev shove here? (huge trouble spot for me ever since) x/r turn seems much better to me

No, you have to x/r/f flop against non stupid sizing

11-25-2014 , 11:33 AM

#15

Double_A

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Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 941

Quote:

Originally Posted by tofa

well c-c is kinda bad as we are never getting paid on the river if we hit our outs unless its a chop or flush over flush.. that being said I like leading or c/r this turn

We could induce bluffs and flush over flush is nice, but with this hand I agree id rather just cr flop or turn.

11-26-2014 , 11:11 PM

#16

KenThBA

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 279

I would 3! Or fold pre and as played c/r turn looks good to me

11-27-2014 , 12:44 AM

#17

_jimbo_

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,439

Quote:

Originally Posted by KenThBA

I would 3! Or fold pre and as played c/r turn looks good to me

You can't possibly fold Kxs against a min raise from the btn against almost anybody. I mostly c/c flop and turn, sometimes c/r turn.

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