UTG loose fish
CO 30 24 cbet 78% turn 50% not a lot c/c postflop as prf -> c/f or c/r

turn couldnt decide between bet/call or bet/fold...but check behind seems to be a bad option on this board.
river easy call i guess (hard to have many better hands for me in this spot) as played even if it looks valuish...

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NL Holdem $2(BB) Replayer
SB ($197)
BB ($74.17)
UTG ($78.02)
CO ($225)
Hero ($203)

Dealt to Hero J A

UTG calls $2, CO raises to $9, Hero calls $9, fold, fold, UTG calls $7

FLOP ($30) J 3 9

UTG checks, CO bets $22.50, Hero calls $22.50, UTG folds

TURN ($75) J 3 9 8

CO checks, Hero checks

RIVER ($75) J 3 9 8 5

CO bets $42

River should be any easy call for you since villain likley barrels bdfd on the turn.

Whether or not to bet the turn will be largely dependent on how villain reacts to such bets imho and how villain will react on river in various spots.

River should be any easy call for you since villain likley barrels bdfd on the turn.

Whether or not to bet the turn will be largely dependent on how villain reacts to such bets imho and how villain will react on river in various spots.

Edit: Oops missed that he could have some jsxs that could x the turn so river call may not be as easy.

I like going bet bet on this runout because we've got a **** ton of draws that are going to want to barrel off and we are high enough In our range for this to be a valuebet for two streets (I'd guess KJ is the worst hand we barrel off for value with as we are going to have a lot more AA-QQ combos because of the fish in the pot, although maybe that makes KJ not a 2-street hand.)

As played snappedy snap

Betting two streets for value after multiway action on this flop seems extremely optimistic to me, almost certain we're not getting called by worse more than 50% of the time against any sensible reg unless we're completely out of line.

CO, by barreling right into the fish, has already put his hand face up OTF (as in having some piece of the board), and in effect so have we. Our perceived floating range is strong, we're not expected to hang around with something like TT and we're probably expected to float our nutted hands too because of fish acting behind us.

I think betting turn can be okay against some villains but river is 100% a checkback and also (if x'ing back turn) a fold against a lead the majority of times with regards to my last paragraph (that both ranges are strong).

Yeah, perhaps on reflection betting two streets with AJ is too optimistic.

this this this.

If we don't expect villain to have any bdfd we probably should just jam river

I thought about this hand on my drive home, and tbh I could probably even be convinced to fold when he bombs flop (tho I always click call ingame).

No backdoor draws, no real good turns, fish will raise behind sometimes plus the most important fact that a regs cbet here is actually ridiculously strong when you think about it.

I would look at stats like cbet vs 2+ ppl and "x/x turn bet river win%", but most people probably don't have those stats in their hud.

Thought about that too, but it's pretty dangerous especially if villain has an overpair which contains a spade.

b/f turn for value unless villain has high %c/r turn

Why do you think a regs c-bet after isoing a limping fish is super strong?

Because fish barely fold this board, and neither does regs. He's up against both.

I think folding flop is a pretty big mistake in this exact spot, (villian being in the CO and fish limping and Hero being in pos ) Villian has a ton more weaker Jx in his range. I wouldn't mind folding flop with QJ,TJ. Or if villian opened UTG and was firing flop. Or if we were oop. But in position I don't think folding flop is even a realistic option.

Def betting that turn, no?

Maybe not though, we kinda not have as many draws as I thought probably.