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11-26-2014 , 09:04 PM

paulierer

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 18

Hello friends,

in todays session I played the following hand:

Party, $1/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #32959192

MP: $168 (168 bb)
SB: $200 (200 bb)
BB: $30.51 (30.5 bb)
BTN: $295.55 (295.6 bb)
UTG: $306.18 (306.2 bb)
Hero (CO): $295.02 (295 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J

UTG folds, MP raises to $5.60, Hero calls $5.60, BTN raises to $24, 3 folds, Hero calls $18.40

Flop: ($56.60) 9

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $34, Hero calls $34

Turn: ($124.60) 7

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $70, Hero raises to $237.02 and is all-in, BTN calls $167.02

River: ($598.64) K

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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I dont know much about the open-raiser, but I guess its a shortstacker, who just doubled up.
About the Squeezer (BTN):
- solid reg,
- squeezed 2 times out of 10 from the button
- cbets 4/4 in 3Bet-Pots in position

I abstained from 3betting preflop to invite the short fish in the Bigblind.
I didn't like to 4Bet vs the Squeeze, because of the deeper stacks.
But on the turn I didn't know what to do, so I just shove but didn't like this play.
What do you recommend for this hand? Any help is really appreciated

Best regards,
paulierer

11-26-2014 , 10:34 PM

mucknuts

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 785

c/f turn

11-28-2014 , 01:25 AM

JaFFsTer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mucknuts

c/f turn

wwhaaaaaa?

11-28-2014 , 01:26 AM

JaFFsTer

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what did he have? doesnt matter, just curious

11-28-2014 , 03:20 AM

24sagittarius

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Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 18

JJ why you hold with the aim of SB(only one short stacks)?
You should bet in the PREFLOP.
I think his range were ..JQs(Standard hands) AhXh etc...
because its deep stacks

11-28-2014 , 04:53 AM

AK89

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 215

Check/call, check/call again. Evaluate river. Check/call or check/fold how often is your opponent 3 barreling with top pair? Often then call. Not so often, fold. Board pairs ㅡ call. Low card - player dependent. a or k should help your range. If he bets that card, I'd lean towards folding.

11-29-2014 , 09:20 AM

paulierer

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaFFsTer

what did he have? doesnt matter, just curious

He showed QQ

12-09-2014 , 11:46 AM

Temperantia

stranger

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by 40yards

c/f turn

agree!! with that stacks you can profitably pay preflop to hit the set... you payed already on flop so... the second barrel shows that he have a really big hand...

12-09-2014 , 12:15 PM

fatsteve

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Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 508

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulierer

He showed QQ

I think you posted this to early for good discussion. What was his turn Chet %. I would probably fold torn.

12-09-2014 , 12:53 PM

#10

CrunkMonkey

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 1,304

c/r turn is about the worst way to play this

12-09-2014 , 02:37 PM

#11

FrankTheBunny

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 230

Preflop I don't like the flat. U are turning this into a set mine and making your life he'll on the flop you got.

His range is air overs and sets and your range is bluff catchers. Easy game for him. Bet good hands check down air. Since he's continuing you should be folding flop IMO or flatting and c/f turn re-evaluating river.

12-09-2014 , 10:14 PM

#12

MrSpew

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Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,621

x/c turn

Spoiler:

12-10-2014 , 09:47 PM

#13

Mr.Position

adept

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 886

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankTheBunny

Flatting for set mining purposes alone here is +EV because its only 6% of effective stack sizes
You think Hero should 4bet/gii or 4bet/f instead?

12-11-2014 , 02:19 AM

#14

KenThBA

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Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 279

C/f turn on that board??? Give me a break. It's an easy c/c

12-11-2014 , 04:57 AM

#15

WinOrGoHome21

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So is this hand 100nl or 200nl ?

12-11-2014 , 05:29 AM

#16

IClickButtons

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WinOrGoHome21

So is this hand 100nl or 200nl ?

12-11-2014 , 07:30 AM

#17

Mr.Position

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Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 886

-1
The thread is called NL200

12-11-2014 , 09:56 AM

#18

Vinny80

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Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,660

Honestly, you can both c/c and c/f here. The more villain is aggro with his squeeze and his W$WSF, the more I call here. C/r is complete spew obv.

12-11-2014 , 10:49 AM

#19

IClickButtons

old hand

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,613

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Position

-1
The thread is called NL200

Why is Hero's stack = 300bb then?

12-11-2014 , 01:58 PM

#20

DrunkPokerMaster

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Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 53

chk call against aggro chk fold versus nit on turn, river i guess we have to still call if he is the kind of player to 3 barrel missed draws and fold otherwise..

12-11-2014 , 09:01 PM

#21

paulierer

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 18

Its nl200, maybe I did something wrong converting the hand history.

The Squeezer was 22/16 with 3B 5% and Sq 4% (overall).
So he seems more nitty and thats why Turn should be ch/folded I guess.

12-12-2014 , 09:40 AM

#22

Coleboyx

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3b get it in Pre. I prefer calling turn and calling down. Except on KQA rivers.

12-12-2014 , 10:38 AM

#23

Mr.Position

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Coleboyx

3b get it in Pre. I prefer calling turn and calling down. Except on KQA rivers.

It would be a 4-bet vs squeezer, then after he 5-vets wed be 6 betting etc.
How do you figure this to be optimal when we are this deep?
Villains gii range is QQ+AK

12-12-2014 , 02:36 PM

#24

Deathtonight214

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 386

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrunkMonkey

c/r turn is about the worst way to play this

This. Call or fold, make your decision OTT.

12-13-2014 , 12:58 AM

#25

Coleboyx

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Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 360

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Position

It would be a 4-bet vs squeezer, then after he 5-vets wed be 6 betting etc.
How do you figure this to be optimal when we are this deep?
Villains gii range is QQ+AK

Ah I didn't see our deepness. Everything is fine IMO until turn. Pref c/c ott

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