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Old 05-23-2012, 10:27 PM   #1
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NFD raised on Kxx

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villain x/raised 67 on K45r....barreled T turn....checked Q river about 5 hands ago blind vs btn


I felt kinda weird because he cant really have flush draws that he's raising and i think we see a set here alot.

Do we just get it in vs unknown who's already x/raised us?



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Old 05-24-2012, 02:15 AM   #2
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Re: NFD raised on Kxx

Very easy reraise. I make it $42, Villain will have bluffs in his range and you will scoop a lot of dead money, if he wakes up with a hand you probably have around 50% equity to win.
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Old 05-24-2012, 03:30 AM   #3
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Re: NFD raised on Kxx

we have 25% vs a set
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Old 05-24-2012, 03:53 AM   #4
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Re: NFD raised on Kxx

tagfish only ever putting people on a range of sets, pretty std
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Old 05-24-2012, 04:25 AM   #5
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Re: NFD raised on Kxx

Villian can never have 56c? Kx? 56o? Random bluffs? Never?
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Old 05-24-2012, 04:30 AM   #6
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Re: NFD raised on Kxx

dont know when i said any of this but mmm ok
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Old 05-24-2012, 06:01 AM   #7
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Re: NFD raised on Kxx

I think I'd put the money in on the flop vs unknown.

I think you did too.
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:20 AM   #8
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Re: NFD raised on Kxx

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Very easy reraise. I make it $42, Villain will have bluffs in his range and you will scoop a lot of dead money, if he wakes up with a hand you probably have around 50% equity to win.
Agree with easy reraise but hate your sizing, at least try to make it look like there is more than a non 0% chance you'd fold.
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:08 AM   #9
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Re: NFD raised on Kxx

I'd just flat his raise. Doubt he fires turn AND river with a bluff so I'd call another bet on the turn and fold on the river if he continous betting. If he checks turn, I'd bet river unimproved and probably check improved.
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Old 05-24-2012, 06:22 PM   #10
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+1, call flop + turn, fold river.
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Old 05-24-2012, 07:46 PM   #11
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Re: NFD raised on Kxx

Not sure why you think he can't raise a worse flush draw after you seen him x/r an oesd. If you think he'll stick it in with worse FD's then make it $35/c. If not then c/c/f. Vs an unknown with the info you have I just r/c.
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:16 PM   #12
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Re: NFD raised on Kxx

3bet/call never really bad, we have 37% against the least optimistic range of two combo draws and 2 sets, and he must be bluff raising here with air/gutters etc. a non 0% amount of time.
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Old 05-24-2012, 10:03 PM   #13
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Not sure why you think he can't raise a worse flush draw after you seen him x/r an oesd.
I do think he can raise a worse FD i just don't think its super often. The OESD was blind vs btn so he was oop and vs a steal range. Pretty different spot.

Just wondering if there's a better line than 3b/calling basically.
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Old 05-24-2012, 11:17 PM   #14
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Just wondering if there's a better line than 3b/calling basically.
Hard to say which line is best vs an unknown. I don't think 3bet/c is bad since his value range is so narrow. Being OOP sucks but if he is going to give up on river with his missed draws like the other hand then you can c/c and take a note if you get to showdown.
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:15 AM   #15
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Hard to say which line is best vs an unknown. I don't think 3bet/c is bad since his value range is so narrow. Being OOP sucks but if he is going to give up on river with his missed draws like the other hand then you can c/c and take a note if you get to showdown.
if villain is givin up with draws on the river and the general assumption here is that he will stick it in with a draw then obv 3b > call call to showdown.
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