***LIFETIME LIFE THREAD*** - Page 7 - Small Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

curve · 01-07-2012, 04:20 AM

As kids we used to hold those roman candles in our hands and play starwars. Just use old clothes, because they can burn some marks in your clothes when you got hit.

Randiek · 01-07-2012, 04:58 AM

So we have been looking around at some wedding places. I want to buy a nice suit/ good wedding bands. Now I am visiting the top brand websites, but they are all SO ****ING ****TY!

I am seriously raging now. How hard can it be to make a proper website that doesn't move a bit everytime you move a mouse. Also, I want to see prices of stuff. Like, if I see 3 suits in a row I may like one of them a bit better than the others. If I see prices I can actually decide what I like.

God someone should teach these fashion tards some webdesign classes. Your interface should be userfriendly, not make me dizzy! For example, in selecting my country for a quote I had to aim 5-6 times before I got it, because the damn thing just moved a little bit all the time.

FFFUUUUUUUUU.

/end rant

Her parents together (Chinese) make about the same as I do in a year, but obviously the cost of living is lower over there. They have offered to give us a large amount of money that would pay for the wedding and a maldives honeymoon. I feel pretty ****ty about it though as my dad is pretty scroogy and goes on holiday like 8 times per year, works only 4 days a week, but I don't expect even 5 figures from him.

Any thoughts on this? I feel bad for taking their money, especially considering that is about a full year's net wage. FWIW they do own an appartment in the center of Beijing and one in a beachtown in the vicinity and invest a lot in shares so it isn't like we would be taking their last pennies.

curve · 01-07-2012, 06:05 AM

Isn't it like really impolite to not take it if they offer it to you? Esp. in their culture?

Sciolist · 01-07-2012, 06:16 AM

Yeh, nothing you can do really regardless of culture.

Though isn't there a Chinese thing where parents pay dowries? And "in return" expect to be looked after in old age? So it's presumably insulting to turn it down as you're saying "yeh, go get old in the corner, we're going to forget about you".

Edit: I get this entirely from a book I read on Korean culture about ten years ago. So who knows how applicable that is to modern day China.

Randiek · 01-07-2012, 06:33 AM

Yeah, but I could talk down the amount I suppose. Just feels so weird that they want to give us a full annual income whereas I would be surprised if my dad and his wife would give even 10% of theirs.

Sciolist · 01-07-2012, 06:45 AM

Maybe you need the advice of other Chinese - I'm not sure you can negotiate the number down for the same reasons. They probably also expect to pay more than your parents. I'm not saying that's right (or comfortable for you) but it's realistically what they think.

Wraths Unanimous · 01-07-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Randiek

So we have been looking around at some wedding places. I want to buy a nice suit/ good wedding bands. Now I am visiting the top brand websites, but they are all SO ****ING ****TY!

I am seriously raging now. How hard can it be to make a proper website that doesn't move a bit everytime you move a mouse. Also, I want to see prices of stuff. Like, if I see 3 suits in a row I may like one of them a bit better than the others. If I see prices I can actually decide what I like.

God someone should teach these fashion tards some webdesign classes. Your interface should be userfriendly, not make me dizzy! For example, in selecting my country for a quote I had to aim 5-6 times before I got it, because the damn thing just moved a little bit all the time.

FFFUUUUUUUUU.

/end rant

Her parents together (Chinese) make about the same as I do in a year, but obviously the cost of living is lower over there. They have offered to give us a large amount of money that would pay for the wedding and a maldives honeymoon. I feel pretty ****ty about it though as my dad is pretty scroogy and goes on holiday like 8 times per year, works only 4 days a week, but I don't expect even 5 figures from him.

Any thoughts on this? I feel bad for taking their money, especially considering that is about a full year's net wage. FWIW they do own an appartment in the center of Beijing and one in a beachtown in the vicinity and invest a lot in shares so it isn't like we would be taking their last pennies.

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Originally Posted by Randiek

Yeah, but I could talk down the amount I suppose. Just feels so weird that they want to give us a full annual income whereas I would be surprised if my dad and his wife would give even 10% of theirs.

I mean if the money her parents are giving is going towards the wedding/honeymoon then meh. They probably somewhat enjoy doing that. My wife had her mom/stepdad and dad/stepmom split the wedding costs which were probably on the lower end of weddings these days and I honestly feel like they were happy to do so. My mom gave us some $ as a wedding gift which we are going to put towards a down payment on a house soonish hopefully. I also feel like this will make her feel good about her gift (her parents gave her and my father some money which they used to buy property and build the house where she still lives).

I would say unless you know that whatever they are planning on contributing is going to really hurt them then I'd just not sweat it.

How soon are you getting married btw? I ended up getting a low-mid low tier CK suit from Macy's and it worked out great. We gave the party some basic guidelines of what to wear but didn't want to make them rent tuxes/dresses or whatever since that can be pricey and some were driving/flying in, got us wedding presents, took us out for bachelor party etc... It worked out decently I thought. Here's a pic of my party.

Randiek · 01-07-2012, 10:14 AM

Nice wraths.

Turns out the parents wanted to give us the main sum as a downpayment for our house and about half the cost of the wedding in cash.

I think you are right and I just shouldn't feel to bad about it. It is still nice of them and they probably like giving the gift.

I have several custom made suits but I think I want a real branded suit for my wedding. **** is pretty expensive though - especially since we will want to have a wedding in Holland and one in China. I think we will keep the wedding small (20-30 people total) to keep costs down, and end with a nice dinner without a party afterwards.

How much did your wedding costs if I may ask? I think the dress/suit will run 3-4k, the location 2-3k, rings 2-3k, food/drinks 2-3k and random other stuff 1-2k. 10-15k seems like a reasonable estimate, right? Keep in mind I count in Euro's so multiply it by 1,3 or so to get to USD.

stupandaus · 01-07-2012, 10:53 AM

in Chinese culture, to give face, there's usually a kind of banter where you say "no, no it's too much" and they will insist. this generally goes back and forth a couple times until you either accept or decline.

each situation is a little different in regards to whether you are supposed to accept in the end. it's also hard to say what they expect you to do if you're not chinese. i think most chinese people would not expect a non-chinese to do the whole banter

shipit2kg · 01-07-2012, 11:02 AM

seems like such a strange phenomena that somehow the cultural norm is for parents to pay for weddings, seems like something you should pay for yourself...if I ever got married I wouldn't expect, nor want a dime.

Congrats tho Randiek! GL with everything

curve · 01-07-2012, 11:10 AM

couple months ago I went to a wedding of a friend (chinese). His dad owns a multimillion euro company in Antwerp and the mayor etc. was there aswell. The biggest institute for music in Bruxelles has a chinese CEO who wrote a music piece for them and chinese opera singer flew in for this. It was f sick lol. 150 people in big ass castle so baller and the kid is the nicest most genuine guy you'll ever meet and really normal little geeky what makes him awesome.

In Leuven I was standing at the red light when he jumped out of his car (he saw my nurburgring sticker) and asked if I drove there often and if I wanted to meet up sometimes. We did a couple times and shared hotel etc. and bonded and he invited me pretty sick actually.

Randiek · 01-07-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by stupandaus

in Chinese culture, to give face, there's usually a kind of banter where you say "no, no it's too much" and they will insist. this generally goes back and forth a couple times until you either accept or decline.

each situation is a little different in regards to whether you are supposed to accept in the end. it's also hard to say what they expect you to do if you're not chinese. i think most chinese people would not expect a non-chinese to do the whole banter

Yeah I have seen this, but this only goes between Chinese. I have seen my gf's dad jump on a guy in a hospital bed to prevent him from giving her money.

That was, in hindsight, hilarious. When I was there I was just confused what was going on. I really had no clue as they were pretty friendly, but I rarely see people semi-wrestle, especially when one is in a hospital bed with a broken leg.

BGnight · 01-07-2012, 12:51 PM

Interesting interview on CNBC with MGM CEO about online poker this year. I really hope congress passes a federal bill but even if they don't things are looking like poker will still get off the ground state by state. He sounds really confident about it in the vid.
http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000066103

Chaos_ult · 01-07-2012, 01:01 PM

Very promising, thanks for that link

Wraths Unanimous · 01-07-2012, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randiek

Nice wraths.

Turns out the parents wanted to give us the main sum as a downpayment for our house and about half the cost of the wedding in cash.

I think you are right and I just shouldn't feel to bad about it. It is still nice of them and they probably like giving the gift.

I have several custom made suits but I think I want a real branded suit for my wedding. **** is pretty expensive though - especially since we will want to have a wedding in Holland and one in China. I think we will keep the wedding small (20-30 people total) to keep costs down, and end with a nice dinner without a party afterwards.

How much did your wedding costs if I may ask? I think the dress/suit will run 3-4k, the location 2-3k, rings 2-3k, food/drinks 2-3k and random other stuff 1-2k. 10-15k seems like a reasonable estimate, right? Keep in mind I count in Euro's so multiply it by 1,3 or so to get to USD.

The location, alcohol, linens, tables, chairs was all included at 40/person. We had ~110ppl. The food was 16ish a person. The suit/wedding dress were a combined 300 which we paid for. Dj was 700, photographer 600, officiant 200, cake 350, flowers 100, decorations/table centerpiece 200.

So a bit less than 9k overall of the top of my head.