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08-29-2012 , 11:48 AM
I'm looking for an apartment too.

My girlfriend and I rescued a pitbull, and most places are either breed restrictive or have a size limit.

So unfair
08-29-2012 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Chaos_ult
I'm looking for an apartment too.

My girlfriend and I rescued a pitbull, and most places are either breed restrictive or have a size limit.

So unfair
Ran into similar problem with a mixed breed German Shepherd. Luckily one of the only places that would accept her also had a fenced in yard, is close to work/school, and the landlord is certified insane. I ran really good.
08-29-2012 , 12:03 PM
pic of dog and girl imo

also pitbulls are kinda a hit or miss imo. Good friends of ours rescued a dog (didn't know the breed) and it was a pitbull. The sweetest dog ever and he'd just sit 2 hours + occasionally pushing his ass against your foot so you know he's still there when you were talking. He died and they got a puppy pitbull with all the certificates and tests they had to do, but damn it's hardcore to get a puppy not to ever jump etc. and I think they kinda thought it'd be easier to handle it.

Not a big pitbull fan tbh just because there are soo many breeds and there is ALWAYS a risk with a pitbull.
08-29-2012 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by curve
and there is ALWAYS a risk with a pitbull.
completely disagree with this and I knew this was going to come up as soon as I posted that :/
08-29-2012 , 01:37 PM
Look into real estate agents. Where I live (arlington, va) agents are paid by the lister rather than the searcher, so having an agent search around for us was free and saved a ton of hassle (and we ended up with a pretty good deal)
08-29-2012 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bware
Look into real estate agents. Where I live (arlington, va) agents are paid by the lister rather than the searcher, so having an agent search around for us was free and saved a ton of hassle (and we ended up with a pretty good deal)
mbn

we finalized a place today though, thank god it's over
08-29-2012 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Chaos_ult
completely disagree with this and I knew this was going to come up as soon as I posted that :/
As the (kinda) owner of a Rott, I have to agree with Curve. Now that's not to say that Pitt's are inherently bad, but if you watch them play as pups - they tend to play much more aggressively with regards to biting, pinning, etc. It's simply in their nature much like pointing, retrieving, chasing pheasants, or in the case of our rott, guarding the house.

Dogs are all bread for a purpose, and while there are many strong, varying shades of personality, pitts and rotts are 'bully breeds' as a recent trainer put it. They require much more strict training than most owners are willing and/or qualified to provide. They may legitimately be the best dogs in the world 99% of the time (as is the case with Berks - our rott) - but they have strong characteristics that are simply too much for most to overcome.

Now I'm familiar with the counter arguement to attack statistics "well it was a lab so clearly the kid had bothered it" or "it was a chihuahua - no harm done - they're kinda bitchy" versus "it was a rott / pitt - it was trying to kill as it's a bad breed" - and I think those are somewhat valid. Again however, the risks are much higher with these breeds and the instincts are much stronger.

Just my $0.02. I love my dog and kinda want another one all my own because of her fierce loyalty and dedication - but she IS a handful.





08-29-2012 , 07:20 PM
I also am looking in the arlington area and am running into issues. Frustrating.
08-29-2012 , 07:53 PM
tbh- and i know each individual dog needs to be judged on its merits- the world would be a better place if pitbulls were bred out of existence.
08-29-2012 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by El P
that is complete BS. you could end up paying thousands before you even get a place. cant imagine putting up with that.
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Originally Posted by Keyser.
it might be different in NYC or for poor people but usually you just tour the different properties, pick your favorite and then apply to just that one. it's not like college apps where you send apps to lots of different places
also to comment on this, obviously you wouldn't apply to a place you didn't want to live just for the hell of it. presumably these places are getting 10-20 apps submitted at least i would guess.

as two young males with no definitive income stream (i know they offered to pay 1yr in advance, but still) they wouldn't exactly be at the top of the pile for most of the places, so if ur paying $100 every time you apply and get rejected you could easily spend thousands before you luck out with a place. very unfair/stupid system imo.
08-29-2012 , 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Snipe
As the (kinda) owner of a Rott, I have to agree with Curve. Now that's not to say that Pitt's are inherently bad, but if you watch them play as pups - they tend to play much more aggressively with regards to biting, pinning, etc. It's simply in their nature much like pointing, retrieving, chasing pheasants, or in the case of our rott, guarding the house.

Dogs are all bread for a purpose, and while there are many strong, varying shades of personality, pitts and rotts are 'bully breeds' as a recent trainer put it. They require much more strict training than most owners are willing and/or qualified to provide. They may legitimately be the best dogs in the world 99% of the time (as is the case with Berks - our rott) - but they have strong characteristics that are simply too much for most to overcome.

Now I'm familiar with the counter arguement to attack statistics "well it was a lab so clearly the kid had bothered it" or "it was a chihuahua - no harm done - they're kinda bitchy" versus "it was a rott / pitt - it was trying to kill as it's a bad breed" - and I think those are somewhat valid. Again however, the risks are much higher with these breeds and the instincts are much stronger.

Just my $0.02. I love my dog and kinda want another one all my own because of her fierce loyalty and dedication - but she IS a handful.





beautiful rotty. i think lifetime i've owned about 6-7 of them.
08-29-2012 , 09:58 PM
Thanks! She's the most amazing dog I've ever had the pleasure of spending time with. So smart, caring, and alert. She constantly makes eye contact and lives for our love and approval.

Only downside is that she's very protective, and a bit skittish around people she doesn't know. Constantly protecting us from the dangers of our friends who come to visit.

But yeah - I absolutely love this dog.
08-29-2012 , 11:44 PM
Gotta get dogs like that outside, around other people and other dogs early in their lives to get them conditioned to being around people.

Also my advice: ditch the choker collar. I've personally had one dog and heard of a few others needlessly dying (choking to death because choker collar got caught on X) due to the choker collar.

edit: just looked at the other 2 pics she doesn't seem to be wearing it
08-30-2012 , 12:54 AM
Yeah - we tried it a couple time just on walks. She just kinda pulled and choked herself so we ditched it. The recent trainer recommended a Halti collar which is really working well.

As far as socializing goes, she was very well socialized from what I understand. She's only 18 months old, and I've known her for quite a few of them. It really is a mystery as to why she's so skittish around new people. Side note: We also know her brother as my gfs cousin owns him and they grew up together. Reputable breeder who was great to them, and the brother is much more accepting of new folks (though much more destructive of household items).
08-30-2012 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Chaos_ult
completely disagree with this and I knew this was going to come up as soon as I posted that :/
I wrote a post yesterday but apparently it didn't get through :s anyway snipe said it perfectly so not going to go further on that subject. The only thing I wanted to mention there was that every dog can have a bad day, but the problem with a pitbull is that it can be A LOT worse than having a f chihuahua snap at you.

@snipe lovely dog and I agree 100% with you. At a "pokerbbq" we once had with a forum the owner had a rottweiler and that dog was sweet, but need a lot of discipline. Unfortunately my mom is allergic to hairs of animals so we never had a dog

Still I don't see, with all the varierty in breeds, why you'd pick a full blown muscled pitbull over something with a more relaxed character.

if they destroy household items 9/10 times they are bored as f and don't get enough time outside running and playing.
08-30-2012 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by curve
I wrote a post yesterday but apparently it didn't get through :s anyway snipe said it perfectly so not going to go further on that subject. The only thing I wanted to mention there was that every dog can have a bad day, but the problem with a pitbull is that it can be A LOT worse than having a f chihuahua snap at you.
Could say the same about Chows, Lhasa Apsos, Dobermans, Mastiffs, Scottish terriers, etc etc.

Meanest dog I ever met was a little tiny terrier. Made me bleed multiple times.

Several different terrier breeds have been bred to be guard dogs/aggressive toward humans. Why are pitbulls singled out? It's bull**** racist media spin and I hate it.

Don't you guys remember that it was the same towards Dobermans awhile ago? Then it was Rotts, now pitbulls.

Also, the term "pitbull" can be applied to several different breeds of dogs. From Wiki:

"The term pit bull is used in reference to multiple breeds of dog, namely, the American Pit Bull Terrier, the American Staffordshire Terrier, and the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, as well as any crosses between the three. However, in a few parts of the world, the American Bulldog is also classified as 'Pit Bull' type dog, despite the fact that they have major genetic differences. In the 90's, the American Bully was created from the American Staffordshire Terrier and the American Pit Bull Terrier."

Again from wiki, pertaining to Staffordshire Bull Terriers:

"...however, because of their natural fondness for people, most Staffords are temperamentally ill-suited for guard or attack-dog training"

Last edited by Chaos_ult; 08-30-2012 at 11:10 AM.
08-30-2012 , 11:07 AM
Not liking pitbulls is racist?
08-30-2012 , 11:18 AM
The media is racist for associating problematic pitbulls with, in general, young african american neerdowells
08-30-2012 , 11:19 AM
Here it's generally white men with baseball caps and possibly swastika tattoos that own pitbulls.
08-30-2012 , 12:00 PM
there are lots of agendas involved in it but racism lol wat
08-30-2012 , 12:29 PM
I could not care less about this issue (cats > dogs ldo) but I don't think chaos's racism statement is inaccurate. The only pitbulls I've ever met were owned by black doods. http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...pit-bull-owner

either way your pitbull prob can't do this


Last edited by Keyser.; 08-30-2012 at 12:32 PM. Reason: joking about the cats > dogs no need to flame
08-30-2012 , 12:54 PM
The raw strength of pit bulls has nothing to do with racism. WTF?

I mean, when I was growing up, I knew a family that lived a bit out in the country and had an absolutely awesome rottweiler. They also had a little kid, and the dog was great around kids and grown ups and everybody loved everybody. The owners had had the dog since he was a puppy, never abused him, etc. Anyway, to make a long story short, one of kids neighbor friends came over one day to borrow the kid's trike. As far as we can tell, the dog flipped out because it thought someone was trying to steal "his" kid's stuff. By the time an adult could get anything done, the dog had killed the neighbor kid.

You can try to make some argument about how maybe the dog should have been chained up, or maybe the neighbors shouldn't have been so casual about letting their kids go to each other's houses, etc., but 1) that's not very realistic 2) that rottweiler is fundamentally physically different from a weaker dog. That dog was, by nature, much more dangerous in that environment than people had realized/admitted, and if they'd gotten the chance to do the risk/reward calculation again, they would have done things differently.

I've never understood why some people (and maybe this isn't you) seem so tied to the claim that pit bulls/rottweilers/etc. are "just like every other dog." It's like some sort of religious conviction, and it's obviously crazy.

Last edited by poincaraux; 08-30-2012 at 01:10 PM. Reason: grammar
08-30-2012 , 01:01 PM
just watched the new Total Recall

It was meh as an action movie, but the whole cyber-punk world was neat
08-30-2012 , 01:02 PM
chaos a ****ing pitt won't let go once it f grabs you. It will literally kill you if he wants that. A f chihuahua I'd squeeze his head with my balls. No difference? Aren't you the naive person here?
08-30-2012 , 01:06 PM
Mastiff vs a pitbull. Who wins iyo?

I think it's the mastiff.

      
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