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10-24-2014 , 01:52 PM

WithnoSenSe

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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #32047512

BTN: $71.78 (143.6 bb)
Hero (SB): $54.37 (108.7 bb)
BB: $113.94 (227.9 bb)
UTG: $50 (100 bb)
MP: $71.53 (143.1 bb)
CO: $93.35 (186.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J

3 folds, BTN raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.75, BB folds, BTN calls $2.75

Flop: ($8) 9

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($18) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $12.75, Hero calls $12.75

River: ($43.50) 6

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $50.28 and is all-in, Hero calls $32.87 and is all-in

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villian 24/17 ft3b 20%, dont have particular reads(not good reg for sure)
Forgot to make it bigger pre. OTF feels like he will stab too much (bet ip 63%) and check becomes better option. River really no idea, I dont know what is better fold or call,

10-24-2014 , 02:22 PM

just_grindin

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,263

Quick glance I might actually bet the turn, though I guess 67s just got there if it is in villain's range.

10-24-2014 , 08:21 PM

mucknuts

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 785

I'd go with call. Blocker to QJ, we've induced bluffs and the spades missed so i'd call and note.

10-24-2014 , 09:57 PM

VantACoo-key?

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Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 3,119

Calling and losing seems fine. We can probably fold though because people don't bluff as much as they should/we want here.

10-25-2014 , 09:30 AM

Yadoula8

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Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,224

If you don't know whether to call this man down then just Cbet the flop. It's a very dangerous board too, we don't really want to give his range free cards..

Our perceived range should fold to the river bet, therefore many ok villains will attack it, very player dependant.

Bet vs missed Cbet, Aggression factor, Cbet river/bet river, these stats would be how i determine whether he's the kind of guy we want to check to induce against.

10-25-2014 , 10:33 AM

patatepowa

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Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 395

villain hits this board pretty hard but he is probably not good enough to take advantage of that fact so we should lean towards giving him more credit.

10-26-2014 , 05:34 PM

BonitaMadras

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I think i'd c-bet flop, but x/c is definitely fine.

Calling river now, if i suspect that villain might be at least somewhat aggro. Your range looks a lot like JT, QT, JJ and other one-pair hands and some villains go crazy here with a very wide range, when its so hard for you to call down with almost your entire range.

10-27-2014 , 11:44 AM

Adzman

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Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,153

Played really well up to river, think against population it's an explo-fold, but from a GTO PoV it's probably got to be a hand where we should be indifferent, or at least close to it (it's either KQ/KJ, at least intuitively.)

10-27-2014 , 02:55 PM

CandyDarling

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Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 157

Quote:

Originally Posted by VantACoo-key?

Calling and losing seems fine. We can probably fold though because people don't bluff as much as they should/we want here.

Is this the bottom of our calling range? I'm not sure that a bluff is absolutely unlikely. TsXs could play like this a fair amount of the time, especially with a J.

As played, x/c, x/c, x/c is fine imo. nh.

10-28-2014 , 09:18 AM

#10

Marvelle

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How would you play with AK without any spades?

10-28-2014 , 10:06 AM

#11

WithnoSenSe

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bet,bet, x/fold/call

10-28-2014 , 10:38 AM

#12

Marvelle

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I understand the reasons why you call the river, thought about c/c, c/c and c/decide river with AK. We have pretty much the same value on this wet board. Eventhough the dynamic of the board didn't change, I don't think he has enough bluffs for him here to let us catch it.

This hand is pretty good to talk about anyways. Hope to see a lil bit more thoughts.

10-28-2014 , 10:49 PM

#13

SicilianTaimanov

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I would call as you block QJ and beat AQss and ATss.

10-30-2014 , 02:39 PM

#14

KereDn

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I fold, because he can be value betting thinly here

10-31-2014 , 12:22 AM

#15

Mr Blonde

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QJ/99/TT/KQ/KTs/K9s/67s/7xss

Yeh let's call...

10-31-2014 , 03:25 AM

#16

CandyDarling

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Blonde

QJ/99/TT/KQ/KTs/K9s/67s/7xss

Yeh let's call...

Yeah, because all those hands play exactly like this.

10-31-2014 , 12:20 PM

#17

Mr Blonde

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Awkward when you're being sarcastic and end up being dead correct

10-31-2014 , 01:22 PM

#18

CandyDarling

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Blonde

Awkward when you're being sarcastic and end up being dead correct

Obviously I think the range is wider than that and we beat some hands, but I take it back. We're still behind assuming villain plays somewhat reasonably. Depends how much latitude you want to give but I think I was fair in my range. We'd have around 29% equity. Oh well.

10-31-2014 , 01:31 PM

#19

MartimC

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Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 6,558

probs an explo fold vs most 50nl regs, and your decision should be based on what hands you check the flop with

since we never have 7x, depends if you have QJ/KK/KT/K9 in your range, if not, QQ and KJ w/o a spade, are hands you should be calling with.

again this is 50nl , and people don't bluff near enough on the river when you x/c x/c in a 3bet pot

10-31-2014 , 01:46 PM

#20

BonitaMadras

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Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 760

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Blonde

QJ 12
99 3
TT 3
KQ doubt that's getting jammed on river, but let's say: 4
KTs 1
K9s 2
67s let's say 2
7xss 2-3

total ~30

Yeh let's call...

AJ: 12
AQ: 12
AXss: 5
random spazzes cause "lol capped range": xx

Yeh let's fold our entire range.

I know, obviously he's not always playing every AJ, AQ like that but given we look super weak and only need ~13 bluff combos, it's not that simple as you make it out to be.

10-31-2014 , 02:09 PM

#21

BlackFr1day

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Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,629

Without a lot of reads and this being 50nl I think it's a snap fold tbh

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