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PLR_9912039QN (SB): 99 BB (VPIP: 31.82, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 3.57, Hands: 66)
PLR_1259034ZN (BB): 73.05 BB (VPIP: 42.19, PFR: 4.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 66)
PLR_9380784JY (UTG): 105.35 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
PLR_3006811CJ (CO): 219.35 BB (VPIP: 21.88, PFR: 17.19, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 66)
Hero (BTN): 226.85 BB

PLR_9912039QN posts SB 0.5 BB, PLR_1259034ZN posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J 8

PLR_9380784JY raises to 2.25 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.25 BB, fold, PLR_1259034ZN calls 1.25 BB

Flop: (7.25 BB, 3 players) T 3 8
PLR_1259034ZN checks, PLR_9380784JY checks, Hero bets 3.63 BB, fold, PLR_9380784JY calls 3.63 BB

Turn: (14.5 BB, 2 players) A
PLR_9380784JY bets 3.25 BB, Hero calls 3.25 BB

River: (21 BB, 2 players) K
PLR_9380784JY bets 7.5 BB, Hero raises to 40.5 BB


Unfortunately I can't get Hero HUD stat values at time of hand for whatever reason...I know it's kinda relevant. I don't believe my stats looked too loose or out of line compared to the norm, otherwise I prob would have just given up riv.

BB is fish hence pre, think it's borderline but ok. Flop cbet seems pretty standard with 42/5 in BB -- many worse hands can call us and the UTG reg almost never has a better hand once he checks to us.

My concern otr is due to fish in BB, Hero should be perceived to not 3bet J9s/JTs pre, and might flat even wider, J8s, 97s, 87s type stuff. In this scenario we get to river with a good amount of potential bluffing hands and face a weak bet from Villain >>>>> maybe not the best spot to get aggressive?

bump?

Fine in theory I guess, but I think you'll find people are sticky when they bet small and get raised. I prefer a fold pre.

3-Bet pre... iso that fish.

What are you repping that just calls turn and raises river. KT?

I prefer 3-bet pre or fold. I don't have much of a cold-calling range OTB, but that's personal preference. You're going to get squeezed a lot here if SB & BB are good regs. They basically just have to get through the OR, as your range for calling a 2.25x open OTB is going to generally be pretty weak.

Meh, agree with Broken that people get sticky when they bet small OTR and you raise. A lot of draws missed, and turned spades missed as well. Would just probably give up.

Recently, I've tried cold-calling less and just 3-betting a lot more IP, esp OTB vs CO. Been getting squeezed more, and 3-betting has a lot of advantages over cold-calling. It's been working pretty well for me. I run like 37/34 OTB with a 16% 3-bet over 3500 hands. It might be higher than my actual 3-bet % since it's a small sample size though. I also mainly 3-bet or fold my SB as well.

Yeah, I often think that too. Go back and forth on it. If you never attack the small sizes you just let them get away with...exactly what they're trying to get away with .

Nah fish is the BB, not the opener...hence flatting pre.

Yeah QJs, KT, maybe even QJo. QJs is a low freq raise ott bc Hero doesn't rep much for value in that spot.

Not sure on that strat, what if weak players are in the blinds? Also, are the regs that were squeezing you a lot incapable of cold 4bets? Because that's what I'd be doing and you're losing a lot more per hand that you 3b/f than one where you cc/f.

I play a lot of 200NLz, but yeah I will call OTB in regular cash games if there are fish in the blinds that are loose passive and not 3-bet happy, or with speculative hands vs a nitty opener. Cold 4-bets at 200NL are a rarity, despite 3-betting being rampant. I dont expect people to be cold 4-betting bluffing often, even if they know I 3b fairly wide at these stakes. It's also not very enticing to cold 4b bluff against someone you dont know well or may just be getting a good run of cards, esp OOP.

If BB is a fish, flatting OTB is std. Agree

Well I won't knock ya for trying because why the hell not? Especially in the Ignition games this is easy to get away with. I just find it an odd strategy since it goes against basic strategy of playing a bunch of IO hands IP. Obviously 3-betting the cutoff a lot is a good strategy. There are ways to combat a frequent squeezing environment and I'm sure you know and have thought about that, just sayin'.

I just went through my basic 3-betting strategy and without going into the entire matrix, I see that I 3-bet 11.61% of hands vs. c/o and flat 8.5%. I think that ratio sucks. Need to 3-bet a touch more. Anyhow, your way is intriguing, perhaps I'll try it out for a few sessions in the near future.

ehhh seems like the reg is trying to induce