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01-05-2016 , 07:01 PM
i have a problem understanding what strategy should i take here.
i play a home game, the buy in is 50$. blind r 1$, 1$ (SB and BB is the same) and we r about 7 hands (7 players at the table).
very quickly someone become a chip leader with about 150-200$, and he only rises. preflop he (or sometimes someone else) raises for like 8-14$ (which is 8-14BB), it is a huge raise compare to the pot. and on the flop there will almost always be another raise of about 20$.
that is where my problem is. if i call the flop for 10$ (for example) i have behind only about 40$, and when he raises the flop for 20$ more it leaves me with only 20$ if i call. i get shortstacked very quickly, unless i am the one winning at the begining of the game.
people raise crazy amount, sometimes even 2-4 times the size of the pot, and that leaves me helpless, like if i dont have AA or KK i cant win in this kind of game, because u can never know where u stand.
by the way, we r allowed to rebuy any amount we want as long as it is not more than the chip leader.
what strategy should i use?
thanks alot.
01-06-2016 , 05:41 AM
can someone please help me?
01-06-2016 , 05:44 AM
Ship pre or ship flop. TPTK should be good, they sound like donks. Variance will be massive so if you don't enjoy it just stop playing.
01-06-2016 , 06:19 AM
Thabks.
But i dont understand something. If a professional poker player would come sit a that table, he would be a consistent winner right? How would he do that? There is no better way to play to decrease the varience?

And another question, with what hands should i shove all in pre flop?
01-06-2016 , 06:29 AM
why are you buying in for $50? buy in with a full stack play tight till youve built up a bit of a stack and then open up and play poker!

Depending on action before you/position depends what hads are shovable. learn peoples ranges and adjust for each player.

Thats just how i play home games. We have a few good players and a few bad players and inalways seem to end th night in profit....
01-06-2016 , 07:45 AM
quit the game probably 10% rake and uncapped
01-06-2016 , 07:47 AM
I dont buy in full stack because it is about 200$ which is to much for me.
And the players around me have no ranges. They can open with Ak and with 27 os. They play stupid and aggressive. That is y it is though for me to call a big raise, i never know where i stand.
01-06-2016 , 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by work2308
Thabks.
But i dont understand something. If a professional poker player would come sit a that table, he would be a consistent winner right? How would he do that? There is no better way to play to decrease the varience?

And another question, with what hands should i shove all in pre flop?
you don't even know if the game is beatable yet. If its 10% rake like most home games and uncapped like some you would never beat the game playing short stack.
01-06-2016 , 07:58 AM
Its a home game with friends. No rake
01-06-2016 , 08:40 AM
If buying in for a full stack is to much for you, play a smaller game. Short stacking on scared money is never going to get you far.

play your premiums and value bet, be very aware of position when calling pre. And take advantage of the bad play!
01-06-2016 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by work2308
I dont buy in full stack because it is about 200$ which is to much for me.
And the players around me have no ranges. They can open with Ak and with 27 os. They play stupid and aggressive. That is y it is though for me to call a big raise, i never know where i stand.
So much wrong with your thinking if your actually going to try and beat this game.
01-06-2016 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by just_grindin
So much wrong with your thinking if your actually going to try and beat this game.
y??
01-06-2016 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by work2308
y??
I don't mean the following as an attack or personal criticism. I'm just sharing my thoughts with you honestly:

1. Being short in the game is bad enough, but even worse when you're not properly bankrolled to play it. You simply can't make as many profitable decisions if you're constantly trying to protect your stack.

2. Villain's have ranges whether you believe it or not. I'm sure your 72o example is either hyperbole, selection biased, selective memory, a random play by your opponent or a combination of all of them. They simply don't play every hand and they don't play every hand with a raise. You're probably not paying attention to showdowns often enough when you're not in the hand.

3. It's likely people are targeting you because you fold so easily and generally seem to have a limited grasp on the game which is probably why you see people raising so often.

We all started somewhere so I encourage you to browse the forums, especially the Beginners forums and check out the stickies sections which should have a lot of good information for you to get started.
01-06-2016 , 01:36 PM
thanks.
do u have some forum or document u recommend me to start from?
01-06-2016 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by work2308
thanks.
do u have some forum or document u recommend me to start from?
Well you're on 2+2 already and there is a forum called Beginners Questions. Also you're free to browse all the old threads in any of the NL forums but I would focus on live low stakes NL, microstakes NL, and maybe some small stakes NL (this forum).
01-11-2016 , 05:49 PM
We can exploit the aggro maniac by going all in preflop with the top 20% of starting hands

      
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