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Old 07-12-2012, 06:53 PM   #46
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Re: Hate playing OOP

wait... you guys actually fold aj and kq utg???
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:06 PM   #47
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that surprised me too. I'm pretty sure you can profit with those 2 hands, clowntable
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:14 PM   #48
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and quick check. river is a clear check/decide only because of this villain+reg type . correct?

btw what beats us besides JsTs considering we have the Q of spades.


whoops didnt check stats clearly. guess he could have KTs too.

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Old 07-13-2012, 05:51 AM   #49
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that surprised me too. I'm pretty sure you can profit with those 2 hands, clowntable
I do profit with KQ,AJ and also A8 over pretty big samples. Like I said before I've been on sort of an "ultradynamic ranges" trip the last half year or so.

My base theory is that regish looking people rely on stats a ton, I tend to play in games that are quite filled with people that have decent looking stats and I have improved a ton in understanding the mindset of the "not so good; stats look ok" kind of villain who I just lazyly labeled in reg-color before.

It's not a terribly hard read to make that I'll open A8o if blinds are fish and fold AJ otherwise and yet I get 3bet extremly seldomly when I open UTG.
I'm just exploiting lazyness of people to pay attention by shifting my ranges around a ton.

Also keep in mind that my ultratight UTG range (~7%) is only my readless standard range. If I don't have enough info after about 2-3 orbits to change my ranges around a lot I try to just quit the session (another change I made to my game that I'd call ultraprofitable...I just quit whenever I haven't looked at a bunch of showndown hands/taken notes and started to devise plans of attack for each table. This one is really hard to implement FWIW)
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:08 AM   #50
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Also keep in mind that my ultratight UTG range (~7%) is only my readless standard range.
Is 22-66 part of this range or do you drop them as well?
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:50 AM   #51
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66+;AK/AQ;AJs

Very easy to exploit on many boards (super Ax heavy, can't really have much nutted in terms of absolute hand values on low boards) but like I said people are lazy.

Used to include KQs as well but I realized I have way too many Kx and Qx hands anyways and why should I even bother with non-nut flushes. ATs would probably be the first hand I'd add.
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