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good spot to c/r river? good spot to c/r river?

03-22-2017 , 05:45 PM
ACR 25nl full ring. hero and villain both >100 BBs deep

preflop: Hero has 8c7s

folds to hero in SB who limps to $0.25, villain checks

*** FLOP ***: [6c 9s 7c] (pot: $0.50)

hero checks, villain bets $0.25, hero calls

*** TURN ***: [6c 9s 7c] [Kd] (pot: $1)

hero checks, villain bets $0.66, hero calls

*** RIVER ***: [6c 9s 7c Kd][4c] (pot: $2.32)

hero ???

i lean toward check-raising since we have at least a little bit of showdown value and we can rep the flush with a c/r with our blocker
03-22-2017 , 06:44 PM
I don't see why you'd want to. Your story doesn't add up. Most people are going to assume you're betting flush draws otf. He may fold hands like 9T but that's not betting river.
03-22-2017 , 08:09 PM
Raise or fold pre. I'd fold if the BB is aggro/somewhat competent. It's okay to open if he's fishy, but pretty marginal.

Flop and turn fine. River x/f. He has way more flushes in his range than you do. From the SB you should be opening the vast majority of your suited broadways/connectors/1-gappers/2-gappers.
03-23-2017 , 08:51 AM
Don't really agree with some of the arguments. Having a mixed strategy of limping and raising is fine SB vs BB even though it isn't easy to balance.

Just c/f river, sure you have a blocker but you if villain bets you will be c/r into a very strong range with a value part of 2 pair+. That doesn't look to attractive as I don't expect people at these limit to fold any hands with that strength.
03-23-2017 , 10:06 AM
I like mini-betting 100% of our range here OTF. Usually when villain checks pre, he will have a lot of garbage there, so it's fine to do that.

as played, check-fold the river
03-23-2017 , 12:35 PM
yeah i def think pre flop is fine, this isn't heads up we don't need to be raising most of our hands

agree with those saying story isn't quite adding up. there are definitely players who will call two streets with a flush draw though personally i would not play my hand this way very often. we also do block the nut straight with the 8 -- 58 or T8 could trap with this line though the river club would complicate things somewhat...
03-23-2017 , 01:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
I like mini-betting 100% of our range here OTF. Usually when villain checks pre, he will have a lot of garbage there, so it's fine to do that.
This is not how you should think about this spot.
03-23-2017 , 11:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by .isolated
This is not how you should think about this spot.
If we have a limping range pre, villain will either check or fold. Let's consider he raises everything that is remotely playable and checks the rest(which is what happens most of the time, you never see villain checking back aces lol).

In order to a minibet show profit, we need 33% of folds, if villain plays that situation straightforwardly, he will be folding even slightly more there and it will be an auto-profit. OFC, some villains fight for those spots, but what I mean is that mini-betting makes the hand easier to play, a lot of people don't care about those limped pots, they treat them as "bonus".


And the other reason for minibetting there is that it's annoying.
03-23-2017 , 11:55 PM
ok.
03-24-2017 , 10:32 AM
limping pre at nl 25 is bad, you pay too much rake and just lose valuable time you could play vs the table fish and actually make profit
03-24-2017 , 10:39 AM
Check fold river as played. You don't want to lead out river because he's only calling with hands that's beat yours.

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03-24-2017 , 10:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deliric
limping pre at nl 25 is bad, you pay too much rake and just lose valuable time you could play vs the table fish and actually make profit
good point
also the SB in NL25 is 0.10, so you don't need ti fight so much in that position.
03-30-2017 , 09:00 PM
HUD stats?
04-03-2017 , 04:54 PM
As played, fold river

      
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