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05-25-2016 , 05:59 PM
Good evening all,

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37341998

BTN: $114.57 (114.6 bb)
Hero (SB): $206.99 (207 bb)
BB: $104.09 (104.1 bb)
UTG: $101.55 (101.6 bb)
MP: $711.89 (711.9 bb)
CO: $101.68 (101.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J J
UTG folds, MP raises to $3, CO calls $3, BTN raises to $13.50, Hero raises to $29, 3 folds, BTN calls $15.50

Flop: ($65) K 8 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $24, BTN calls $24

Turn: ($113) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($113) J (2 players)

What is everybody's opinion on the river? I am completely torn between shoving and check/folding and also considering the merits of check/calling. I have no info on villain. The effective stack is $61 on the river. I don't know which is more of a mistake in the long run?
05-25-2016 , 07:00 PM
Why would you ever check fold here? Youre beaten by kings only! I'm not sure what he looks us up with otr unless he gets trappy and checks back his ak or aces OTT knowing it's possible you could pair off river shovss with your queens type hands but he would still shove river with those hands so might be best to check to call river as I'm not sure what he would call with that won't shove himself plus it'll tempt him to shove river with bluffs sometimes.
05-25-2016 , 10:13 PM
Never check/folding in this spot for roughly a 1/2 psb, sucks if he showed up with Kings here but that doesn't justify a c/f in this spot over the long run.
05-25-2016 , 10:44 PM
Merge your range and shove river.

If you are contemplating x/f river what is your calling range here if not JJ.
05-26-2016 , 12:40 AM
If your bluffing like AdQx type hands then i think shoving the top of your range is good and x/c with diamond combo hands AxAd etc

If you don't have bluffs in this spot probs checking your whole range is better.

Don't x/fold either lol

Also not sure if i like the cbet vs unk, think i would be more inclined to x/f.
05-26-2016 , 07:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by icarus1234
Merge your range and shove river.

If you are contemplating x/f river what is your calling range here if not JJ.
Shoving the nuts doesn't merge your range.

Either shove or call depends on villain.

      
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