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Old 07-02-2012, 04:19 AM   #16
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Re: folding flopped straight 100bb

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Whenever someone looks up "optimistic" in a dictionary, this should be quoted.
May be he is talking Swedish krona vs Swedish Meatballs?

If 600BB did go all in on this flop, then I'd expect 87s to be drawing dead more than 75% of the time.
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:23 AM   #17
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Re: folding flopped straight 100bb

Not drawing dead exactly, but yeah...
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:29 AM   #18
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May be he is talking Swedish krona vs Swedish Meatballs?

If 600BB did go all in on this flop, then I'd expect 87s to be drawing dead more than 75% of the time.
I have no idea which level you're on, but the second part made me laugh at least.
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Old 07-02-2012, 06:01 PM   #19
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Its an easy stackoff cmon. And yes im probably getting this in even against a nit 300bb deep. He has a set here so often. Much more often than he has the occasional higher str8.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:55 PM   #20
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Its an easy stackoff cmon. And yes im probably getting this in even against a nit 300bb deep. He has a set here so often. Much more often than he has the occasional higher str8.
9 combos of sets, 16combos of KQ.

hmmm, also sets dont always raise/4b/6b etc whereas KQ waaay more likely given how deep we are (300bb deep this is)
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:06 PM   #21
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Facepalm @even thinking about folding this vs fish.

Im not folding this 300bb deep vs a nit.
HU 4 LOLZ?
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:30 PM   #22
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9 combos of sets, 16combos of KQ.

hmmm, also sets dont always raise/4b/6b etc whereas KQ waaay more likely given how deep we are (300bb deep this is)
87hh on that board texture also has no redraw such as BSF. That's why I said he could be drawing dead on the flop so often if a nit did shove or called a shove on flop for a 600BB pot.

However, if this happened in a live game there are some benefits to playing 87hh this way vs the nit.

1) The Swede will flip over his hand and the nit will say "Oh, you can just slide your stack over to my side already if you want".

2) When the nit flips his hand over the dealer will say "Wait a minute, yup the hand is over, you win" and he won't have to flip the turn and river card.

3) The Swede actually avoided a tough spot because now he doesn't have to squeeze watching the turn and river card to see if he can suck out.

4) On a few occasions, when the Swede shoves on flop, the nit will say "Will you show me if I fold?" and flip over his Q8s. The Swede will then freeze and remain mute like the Statue of Liberty and the nit might fold his hand.
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Old 07-02-2012, 09:17 PM   #23
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Re: folding flopped straight 100bb

Villain has QK, lololol get it in and tell him he deserved it.
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:26 AM   #24
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Hmm...
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Re: folding flopped straight 100bb

yeh you're dead
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Old 07-05-2012, 04:20 PM   #26
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Ahh alright i guess im a little off with the call vs nit thing but this is a easy call tho.
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