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Fold or shove 3-way flop Fold or shove 3-way flop

03-19-2017 , 07:06 PM
This is a hand I played in a live 2-3 game.

Seat 1 is a loose aggressive player who will almost always bet if he has aggression and any piece of the board/draw (~350 in stack).
Seat 2 is a solid player but a bit of a calling station (~200 in stack).
I sit in seat 4 (~300 in stack).

Button is on seat 3. Action folds around to seat 1, who raises to 16. Seat 2 calls. Button folds and I look down at QdQh. I decide to call and try to trap seat 1 and possibly get some more out of seat 2 as well.

Flop: Ah Jh 5h

I check. Seat 1 leads out for 42. Seat 2 calls. I'm thinking seat 1 probably has something along the lines of a flush draw or pair and flush draw, while seat 2 most likely has an Ace. I know I have the odds for an easy call, but if the turn doesn't improve my hand seat 1 is almost certainly going to barrel again and I'd probably have to let my hand go. So at this point I'm thinking about folding or just shoving. After some debate I decide to let it go.

Would shoving have been better than a fold there? Was calling still an option?
03-19-2017 , 07:40 PM
Given that you "know" you have the odds there, I'd fold as well. Seems like a good idea.
03-19-2017 , 11:00 PM
i'd call
03-20-2017 , 06:07 AM
In a 2-3 live game I don't see why were not 3 betting pre 100% here, qs are not invincible and your just loosing value honestly. Standard fold on the flop.
03-20-2017 , 11:29 AM
i'm not folding second pair with the second nut flush draw getting these odds. definitely should have been a 3b pre tho agreed

      
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