Just curious if anyone ever does it, and if so against what villains and in what situations.

It's pretty g4y and could be fun to implement in your game (perhaps more useful at higher stakes).


The only times I can remind myself ever really doing it is when I hit a real monster against a fish, like quads or a straight flush or something.

What the **** is a raptor bet? Is it a donk bet that people just rename?

No, it's when you bit tiny, like if you continuation bet $3 in a $10 pot.

lol who is the fish?

lol, yes.

only on tuesdays

also known as root beer bet or gay bet if memory serves me right.

it's basically betting really small in spots where your opponents range is really weak and you want to induce a light call/bluff raise.

betting small with the nuts vs fish is usually lol bad fwiw.

Generally, it goes like this...

Post One: "LOL RAPTOR BETS ROOL"

Post Two: "I had four of a kind twos, and I bet 1/10th of the pot...he called and cuaght his third nine on the turn...guess what? Yup. Nine on the river. I HATE POKER. THIS SITE IS RIGGED. THE UNDERDOG HAND ALWAYS WINS."

Price them in, and your monster may up looking like a tiddler.

wat

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Against idiot fish it's maybe sensible to do, but others are much more likely to raise 449r with air when you cbet normally imo. At least when I see like a 5th pot bet on such a board from a reg it doesn't make me go HAH AH YOU ARE BLUFING CHEAPZ, I RAISERS.

Pretty standard in pots with low spr where your opponent will shove or fold.

That's not a gaybet/raptor bet/whatever though. Assuming you mean like cbetting small when villain calls your 4bet

thats exactly what he means.

and in 3bet/4bet pots its how benefield originally used it/ described it. ive never seen him do it in single raised pots.

Oh, okay.

If I have a reason for it ill do it.

with low spr it's definitely useful in that it gives you options on all streets. if you cbet large you're left with awkward spr's and usually can only shove turn or check turn/shove river. with smaller cbet sizing you can b/b/b or decide to give up whenever you want to, effectively making opponents make harder decisions.

after 3b'ing and raptor-betting in position, your opponent is definitely not in a shove/fold spot though. they're actually forced to peel or play back at you more frequently and wider than they're used to, putting them in a lot of uncomfortable and non-standard spots. for this reason and the first i mentioned it actually has a lot of value strategy-wise.

+1

I do it every day, many, many, times.

it's called a g4y bet. because it's g4y. and you bet.

it's not called a raptor bet. you're not a raptor, although you do bet. if you were a raptor, it could perhaps be caleld a raptor bet.

I sometimes barrel turn small with a semibluff vs fish who don't fold a pair no matter what. It's cheaper than possibly c/cing a normal bet.

Players on small stakes raptor bet all the time. But they do it for a different reason that they don't even know.

I start seeing it from regs in NL50+ as cbet on dry flops instead of half pot, apparently there has been some hype about it somewhere. Not a new concept, even when Raptor started using it. It used to be call post oak bluff/post oak bet, then probe bet.
In small stakes it'll just lead to severely unbalanced ranges and outhinking from ppl trying to incorporate it in their game, so all the better.

Edit : sorry didn't check the date, didn't mean to unearth an old post :/