villain 87/13/fvcb 25 - 30 hands


I didnt cbet flop because villain has only folded to 2/8 cbets

Should i be betting the turn when he checks back the flop? Were not really bluffing but were just betting to avoid being bluffed i guess?

On the river i think i have to continue firing.






MP: $100.95
CO: $108.70
BTN: $137.86
Hero (SB): $100.00
BB: $127.19
UTG: $169.99

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with J A
UTG calls $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, UTG calls $4

Flop: ($11.00) 4 3 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($11.00) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $6.25, UTG calls $6.25

River: ($23.50) K (2 players)
Hero bets $17.00,

lol He just seems like a massive calling station to me.

I don't see much merit in betting anywhere but I do wanna show this hand down. So with that in mind, I'm looking to call may be one bet on river expecting him to bluff with air a fair amount.

well, AT might call down

I'd just try to get to showdown, you have a decent amount of sdvalue, and you will gain some information about how this guy plays if this goes to sd.

I'd consider x/c river.

I'd x/c river

it's pretty weird reasoning to not cbet the flop w/o a plan and then just start betting the turn w/o a plan...he's never folding better, but can have lots of air. Are you value betting against the gutters and Ax; if so what's your river plan, do you think betting now if more effective than checking? vs this type of guy you'll make way more mistakes by being indecisive than maybe being a little too passive or too aggressive.

whether your turn bet was for protection or what, to accomplish the same things more effectively, the river bet seems like it should be way smaller or way bigger.

id not vs a fish, AJ has SD value too here.

You can consider betting the flop for pure value vs. his overcards if he is passive enough to just check through on later streets when he misses.

x/c or x/f river seems best, I don't think your river sizing works particularly well as a bluff or for value.

I think not betting the flop is pretty bad against this player. He is calling all gut shots, any two over cards and weaker ace highs. If you think he is check raises bluffing a lot then I could see a check behind, but this is not typical of this type of player.

yea this, I'm betting for value.

As played I'm probably potting river if I decide to bet, but we have showdown value against a good amount of turned draws that bricked river so I'd lean towards checking.

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I think you guys are better than me so I don't know if I am just being noob.

This flop is really bad for us. Against ATC we are only flipping and betting flop for "value" and trying to GTSD will always be hard imo

The guys a huge fish and we have no reads so he could be value betting AQ/bottom pair otr accidentally and we end up looking like a dik with our over played AJo

ott we are 42% vs random range, so still cant value bet.

river brings us 36% equity. so if actually pots ATC otr we can now call but I don't even know if they bluff much and would rather have some real hand to call with.

just my 2cents

were in position. so he cant c/raise and we cant check behind. Also if we cbet the flop for value were forced to c/fold alot of turns.

how do you figure this?