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Old 06-14-2012, 12:40 AM   #1
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Common turn spot, 100nl

This is at an anonymous game so I don't have very much information, but villain is running 22/17 and 3betting 6% over about 60 hands. So far he's cbet at 65%. He has not gone to showdown yet so I don't really have any reads but he is surely a reg.


    Prima, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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    Hero: $204.69 (204.7 bb)
    MP: $115.33 (115.3 bb)
    CO: $156 (156 bb)
    BTN: $105.36 (105.4 bb)
    SB: $72.09 (72.1 bb)

    Preflop:
    2 folds, BTN raises to $3, SB folds, Hero calls $2

    Flop: ($6.50) 6 9 2 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN checks

    Turn: ($6.50) K (2 players)
    Hero ?



    I'm never really sure what to do. What is everyone's plan for turn? And what about river?
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    Old 06-14-2012, 12:45 AM   #2
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    Re: Common turn spot, 100nl

    Just hit fold and get out on turn if your site allows it.

    I'd donk 3/5 on flop if I'm gonna take a shot.

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    Old 06-14-2012, 01:23 AM   #3
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    Re: Common turn spot, 100nl

    What's your hand?

    I'm pretty sure CombatCarl is not sure whatever hand he has. But we wouldn't take him as an example would we?
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    Old 06-14-2012, 01:27 AM   #4
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    Re: Common turn spot, 100nl

    Sorry I have 8d8h.
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    Old 06-14-2012, 01:37 AM   #5
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    Re: Common turn spot, 100nl

    Then this becomes more interesting....
    I check.
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    Old 06-14-2012, 01:47 AM   #6
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    Re: Common turn spot, 100nl

    Bet turn, x/call most rivers or x/call turn x/call most rivers. Against a passive opponent it's better to bet turn, readless I don't mind taking one line or the other.
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    Old 06-14-2012, 01:50 AM   #7
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    Re: Common turn spot, 100nl

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    Bet turn, x/call most rivers or x/call turn x/call most rivers. Against a passive opponent it's better to bet turn, readless I don't mind taking one line or the other.
    Why? Betting turn to x/c most rivers doesn't make much sense to me, since villain will rarely check rivers once he bets turns.
    Well, it does make sense, sorry...

    But you keep his range not as wide by betting as you would by checking IMO. And our hand is not good enough to bet twice for value against villain's checking range.

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    Old 06-14-2012, 01:58 AM   #8
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    Bet turn, x/call most rivers or x/call turn x/call most rivers. Against a passive opponent it's better to bet turn, readless I don't mind taking one line or the other.
    say i am v
    u check flop and donk turn
    i will club u like seals
    so donk big on flop to take it down
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    Old 06-14-2012, 02:05 AM   #9
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    say i am v
    u check flop and donk turn
    i will club u like seals
    so donk big on flop to take it down
    The Riddler or just Joker?

    IMO Riddler, since the Joker had this simple pragmatic anarchy, while the riddler just riddled away...
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    Old 06-14-2012, 02:57 AM   #10
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    But you keep his range not as wide by betting as you would by checking IMO. And our hand is not good enough to bet twice for value against villain's checking range.
    Keeping his range wide is only good if he's going to turn into a bluff what he checked back the flop with. But as I said I don't mind either line readless.
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    Old 06-14-2012, 03:44 AM   #11
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    Re: Common turn spot, 100nl

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    Keeping his range wide is only good if he's going to turn into a bluff what he checked back the flop with. But as I said I don't mind either line readless.
    We're betting turn to fold out/charge handswith equity and preventing him from creating an effective 2 barrel situation for his bluffs.

    We can also consider x/f on 10-q river...And x/r on essentially any river including flushes based on sizing and timing.
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    Old 06-14-2012, 04:41 AM   #12
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    The Riddler or just Joker?

    IMO Riddler, since the Joker had this simple pragmatic anarchy, while the riddler just riddled away...
    I was talking hypothetical situation. Say OP has two napkins and I have same.

    We are just gonna try to win the pot using our perceived range.

    OP checks flop and donks out on that turn, I will club him like seals senseless until he is unconscious or dead.

    So I'm not The Joker or Riddler, but Goku.
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    Old 06-14-2012, 04:44 AM   #13
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    Re: Common turn spot, 100nl

    Check obviously. We should be checking a **** load of our range on this turn anyway.
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    Old 06-14-2012, 04:55 AM   #14
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    Re: Common turn spot, 100nl

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    I was talking hypothetical situation. Say OP has two napkins and I have same.

    We are just gonna try to win the pot using our perceived range.

    OP checks flop and donks out on that turn, I will club him like seals senseless until he is unconscious or dead.

    So I'm not The Joker or Riddler, but Goku.
    You plan ondoing that how exactly with a range capped at top and bottom and usually much worse against sets flush draws top pairs+ and 88 sometimes? Gl.
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    Old 06-14-2012, 04:57 AM   #15
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    Re: Common turn spot, 100nl

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    You plan ondoing that how exactly with a range capped at top and bottom and usually much worse against sets flush draws top pairs+ and 88 sometimes? Gl.
    You honestly think the K hits his range more than mine? GL
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