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10-22-2014 , 11:37 PM

elektrik23

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Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 371

Anonymous tables, villain had previously cbet dry board and x/f turn. No other reads.

Full Tilt, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #31991672

SB: $102 (102 bb)
BB: $39 (39 bb)
UTG: $185 (185 bb)
MP: $261 (261 bb)
CO: $43 (43 bb)
Hero (BTN): $152 (152 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 2

UTG raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $3, 2 folds

Flop: ($7.50) 2

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5, UTG raises to $19, Hero calls $14

Turn: ($45.50) 6

(2 players)
UTG bets $29, Hero calls $29

River: ($103.50) Q

(2 players)
UTG bets $62, Hero ??

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10-23-2014 , 12:27 AM

the real mg0698

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Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,828

Jam

10-23-2014 , 06:29 AM

lambo4bkfast

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Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 389

Quote:

Originally Posted by the real mg0698

Jam

They are 150bb deep, villain isn't going to call jams enough here for it to be good. There is too much value in this hand. Calling flop raise and raising most turns (non diamond/non-4 or 6) and looking to gii on turn or river.

With your board run out, I would be calling the turn and jamming the river/minraising river against most villains as we get called by KK/AA a ton here and there are worse hands that may call.

edit: my bad, fgor somereason I thought you were suggesting to jam on the flop

10-23-2014 , 09:17 AM

Fishtankz

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Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 6,410

Jam river hope he has KK+
39$ left in big pot, think we get sigh called a lot.

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation

21 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 2

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
2c2s	57.14%	12	0
77,55,qq+	42.86%	9	0

10-23-2014 , 09:39 AM

alexuuus

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just call, dont jam

10-23-2014 , 10:05 AM

DTD

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The only reason I can see a raise would be if we were thinking about wanting to shove missed draws sometimes and hence wanting more of a raising range than just better hands. Not really sure about that though and I'd turbo call tbh.

10-23-2014 , 10:33 AM

Adzman

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Ship it, ez game

10-23-2014 , 10:50 AM

DTD

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If villain has a draw or some spackerish air hand then he'll fold anyway, if he has an overpair then he will probably call sometimes, if has has a higher set then he'll always call. If you factor in that it's more rare for players to c/r an overpair and fire three barrels than it is with a higher set, then it looks a bit optimistic to shove with no reads. At least, based on my experience of the c/r'ing range of players I see anyway - and it's not like villain can have a read that hero auto bets when checked to otf.

10-23-2014 , 11:08 AM

neok

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishtankz

Jam river hope he has KK+
39$ left in big pot, think we get sigh called a lot.

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation

21 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 2

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
2c2s	57.14%	12	0
77,55,qq+	42.86%	9	0

If you add in 89dd it's not a valuejam anymore, even when he always calls QQ+, don't think it's very unreasonable to add it. All the other semibluffs he has fold anyway.

Think I'd just call aswell.

10-23-2014 , 12:01 PM

#10

Double_A

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Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 941

Im not sure how much value there is in a river jam. Maybe its better than a call, but if so not by much. I think your hand plays better as a flop 3b or turn raise.

10-25-2014 , 07:16 PM

#11

mucknuts

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 785

This has got to be a call, jamming seems waaaaay too optimistic

10-26-2014 , 04:30 PM

#12

SuperNutsFR

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Call !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! riveeerrr

10-27-2014 , 03:11 AM

#13

Zarshka

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Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 234

I jam too. If the board would have been dry I'd probably just call.

10-27-2014 , 03:44 AM

#14

ZK701

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Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 13

just call

10-28-2014 , 09:44 AM

#15

Marvelle

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 93

1- Make it 48 on the flop

2- Shove the turn

3- What does the Q change? Do what you feel, not what you see.

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