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10-22-2014 , 06:42 AM

WithnoSenSe

adept

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 751

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #31981562

BTN: $202.86 (202.9 bb)
SB: $107.34 (107.3 bb)
Hero (BB): $100 (100 bb)
UTG: $82.03 (82 bb)
MP: $182.77 (182.8 bb)
CO: $100 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A

2 folds, CO raises to $2.70, 2 folds, Hero raises to $9, CO calls $6.30

Flop: ($18.50) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $9, Hero calls $9

Turn: ($36.50) 3

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($36.50) 6

(2 players)
Hero bets $24, CO raises to $82 and is all-in, Hero folds

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23/18 rfi 30% fold to 3 bet 29%. Likes to rcb OTF
After my river bet he insta jammed

10-22-2014 , 09:33 AM

IClickButtons

old hand

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,613

I dont like flop check.

As played your hand is underreped, so I cannot say that the call is bad

10-22-2014 , 10:16 AM

oxiej

adept

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,160

Underrepped maybe, but there is no way he valueraises AQ/KQ, so compared to what he is repping we are still screwed. This is high up in our range tho so tempted to call anyway, villain can certainly hold some bluffs and our range is kinda meh perceived, we almost never have Jx or flushes, he doesn't rep them that well either but probably still better then us.

10-22-2014 , 11:18 AM

Adzman

adept

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,153

Snap folding river, yes we are underrepped but we aren't that high up in our range and we can't beat anything. It's closer with the Ac

10-22-2014 , 01:57 PM

TheoTheBigBird

newbie

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 49

Folding river, would be closer if we had the Ac

10-22-2014 , 08:59 PM

lambo4bkfast

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 389

x/c river is better. When we donk the river we are only getting value from AQ/KQ/KK/ and sometimes TT and folding whenever villain raises us because bluff catching on this board is horrid. When we x/c we pot control and are still likely to get value from AQ and KK and bluffs at the very least.

10-23-2014 , 12:29 AM

the real mg0698

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,828

Fold river

10-23-2014 , 02:10 PM

Yadoula8

banned

Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,224

Yeah our entire perceived range might well fold so I think we have to call with AA now?? Depends how good villain is I suppose.... I think the mistake was on the flop.

10-23-2014 , 02:27 PM

Triumph36

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 40,914

what are you hoping to accomplish with a flop check against someone who doesn't fold much to 3 bets? unless he thinks that you don't know that he calls lots of 3 bets, your c/c range here should be huge.

10-23-2014 , 02:56 PM

#10

Nirwanda

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Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 7,699

Riverbet is a mistake I think.

10-23-2014 , 03:36 PM

#11

MartimC

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Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 6,556

betting riv is bad indeed

10-23-2014 , 11:33 PM

#12

Brokenstars

Verified Coach NLHE

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 16,101

x/c river is better as he can bet all of his floats/garbage and value bet with middling PP and Qx

as played im folding

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