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Old 02-05-2012, 01:34 PM   #1
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AA on KQJ 3way

UTG likes to see flops but isnt super bad and probably breakeven/slightly losing player, plays up to $5/$10

BTN is massive fish playing something like 40/12

My reads dont go much further unfortunately

How do you play the flop?

Money behind: Hero $82, UTG $71, BTN $57

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UTG ($89.09)
CO ($100)
BTN ($75.11)
SB ($88)
BB Hero ($100)

Dealt to Hero A A

UTG raises to $4, fold, BTN calls $4, SB calls $4, Hero raises to $18, UTG calls $14, BTN calls $14, SB folds

FLOP ($58) K Q J

Hero?
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:10 PM   #2
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Re: AA on KQJ 3way

Bet/call something like $25. You have at least 6 outs when behind, and I'm not planning to fold with about a little more than pot behind.
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Old 02-05-2012, 03:35 PM   #3
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Re: AA on KQJ 3way

im in the bet/fold boat.
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Old 02-05-2012, 03:36 PM   #4
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Re: AA on KQJ 3way

if youre bet/folding what amount would you bet?
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Old 02-05-2012, 03:46 PM   #5
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Re: AA on KQJ 3way

$30 looks good.
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Old 02-05-2012, 03:55 PM   #6
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Re: AA on KQJ 3way

I am shipping the turn as well if I am flat called. I assume are bet doesn't have much fold equity either.
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Old 02-05-2012, 04:00 PM   #7
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Re: AA on KQJ 3way

I don't get bet/fold. You bet but if it's raised you fold? I think it's probably worth shoving if you're raised. The flop is rainbow and you have the gutshot, which you might not need. Although if it hits, could be a chopped pot.
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Old 02-05-2012, 04:06 PM   #8
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Re: AA on KQJ 3way

how about checking?
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Old 02-05-2012, 06:14 PM   #9
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Re: AA on KQJ 3way

Grunch: From your reads, and the fact that UTG only called your PF raise leaves me believing your hand is still best (I have KQs and JJ in his range, but only rarely). The fish may have you beat, just not very often.

Because of stack sizes here I may check/ship, if its checked around reevaluate on the turn. The logic being, either of them may have hands that can bet, but not call an all in, and the pot and stack sizes make other bets from us awkward. I cannot imagine folding this hand ever.
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Old 02-05-2012, 06:18 PM   #10
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Re: AA on KQJ 3way

After reading the other responses, I feel about the same. I just don't like bet fold in this spot, w/ different pot or stack sizes (smaller pot or lager stacks) then bet/fold makes sense. I think if I'm behind on this hand I'm paying them off.
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Old 02-05-2012, 06:19 PM   #11
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Re: AA on KQJ 3way

you have too much equity to bet/fold here... even against 2p you have about 38% equity... if you bet, you have to call
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Old 02-06-2012, 01:38 AM   #12
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Re: AA on KQJ 3way

i would bet the flop like 60% pot, if get called will bet turn 60%, if get called will shove againt the fish, and not sure about shove or check fold against the reg (please advice?)... if get raise at any point i will fold the hand...
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:49 AM   #13
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Re: AA on KQJ 3way

Bet fold is pretty bad since we have 38% equity vs KQ, and he rarely flats QQ, KK or JTs here.

I think I like c/r since UTG can value bet lighter vs fish when we check and then feel pot committed.
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:02 AM   #14
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Re: AA on KQJ 3way

PSR of <1.5, I think we have to bet and snap it off. There's no way we can bet 25-30 then fold.

Gonna be behind a decent amount when we get action but its just a raw equity spot, + the fish is never folding Ax or Tx where x makes a pair.
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Old 02-06-2012, 10:44 AM   #15
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Re: AA on KQJ 3way

Since the pot is so huge already, I honestly do not see any reason why we should consider anything else than betting with the plan of stacking off - there are more hands we are ahead of than we are behind of and we do not want to give them chance to improve for free/lose value if scare card comes up on the turn.

We are not expecting anyone to have KK/QQ here, against hands that are ahead of us we have quite decent equity (against range consisting of KQ, KJ, QJ, AT and JJ we have 30%) and the fish might easily stack off with AK/AQ/KT/QT/JT/TT against us here.
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