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Old 06-04-2012, 12:31 PM   #1
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AA on HJ gets 3bet 330BB Deep 100NL Zoom

This is my first time playing on Zoom table.

My HM2 HUD didn't work. No stats, no clue. I'm playing TAG style.

This hand confused me because I'm a Zoom noob and I'm oop and pretty deep.

How would you play this hand preflop?

Considering this is Zoom table, what's the best line?

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

BTN: $330.67 (330.7 bb)
SB: $139.20 (139.2 bb)
BB: $101 (101 bb)
UTG: $132.33 (132.3 bb)
Hero (MP): $592.82 (592.8 bb)
CO: $52.89 (52.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A A
UTG folds, Hero raises to $3, CO folds, BTN raises to $11, 2 folds, Hero ???
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Old 06-04-2012, 12:52 PM   #2
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Re: AA on HJ gets 3bet 330BB Deep 100NL Zoom

4bet...

can't really say anything other than good luck postflop if you don't have reads or stats
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Old 06-04-2012, 01:15 PM   #3
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Re: AA on HJ gets 3bet 330BB Deep 100NL Zoom

Without stats or reads 4 bet big and hope he has KK
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Old 06-04-2012, 03:31 PM   #4
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I'd make it 27.
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Old 06-04-2012, 05:11 PM   #5
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Re: AA on HJ gets 3bet 330BB Deep 100NL Zoom

my standard 4betting-size would be $27-$29 with the given stacks
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:01 PM   #6
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Re: AA on HJ gets 3bet 330BB Deep 100NL Zoom

shouldnt we be making our 4b something in the range of 39$ 330bb deep? Anything less and he can literally flat anything lol?
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:15 PM   #7
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Re: AA on HJ gets 3bet 330BB Deep 100NL Zoom

39 is kinda big and anything that starts with 2 is smallish, I like 35
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:17 PM   #8
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Re: AA on HJ gets 3bet 330BB Deep 100NL Zoom

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shouldnt we be making our 4b something in the range of 39$ 330bb deep? Anything less and he can literally flat anything lol?
That's what I was thinking. Pretty much any sane size 4bet gets action this deep. He'll pay for flop and position.

4bet also alerts my hand = AA = He goes "I'm gonna stack this 4betting mofo!!"

So I don't like to 4bet to be honest with you. I'd rather flat his 3bet and play a mid size pot oop sheepishly. Meh.
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:21 PM   #9
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Re: AA on HJ gets 3bet 330BB Deep 100NL Zoom

obv isnt a spot I get into often so not saying 39 is optimal but I imagine somewhere in the range of that is right, maybe even bigger? I literally dont think he should be folding any part of his 3bing range to anything under 35 other than some of his most dominated hands (KJo) if he 3bs that for example.

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Old 06-04-2012, 10:24 PM   #10
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That's what I was thinking. Pretty much any sane size 4bet gets action this deep. He'll pay for flop and position.

4bet also alerts my hand = AA = He goes "I'm gonna stack this 4betting mofo!!"

So I don't like to 4bet to be honest with you. I'd rather flat his 3bet and play a mid size pot oop sheepishly. Meh.
Why would you not want to 4bet if you think regs will call too wide, which I agree with.
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:33 PM   #11
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Why would you not want to 4bet if you think regs will call too wide, which I agree with.
Well, because this is Zoom and it's my first time playing and my HUD is not working so I don't know if he is a regular or recreational, nit,tag,lag, or maniac. I think I would know what to do if I knew his stats at least. To me it was a such complex problem so much so that I even considered folding AA preflop.
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:36 PM   #12
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Re: AA on HJ gets 3bet 330BB Deep 100NL Zoom

seems like a slam dunk 33$ 4b
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:47 AM   #13
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Re: AA on HJ gets 3bet 330BB Deep 100NL Zoom

nothing wrong with big 4 bet or flatting.
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:26 AM   #14
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Well, because this is Zoom and it's my first time playing and my HUD is not working so I don't know if he is a regular or recreational, nit,tag,lag, or maniac. I think I would know what to do if I knew his stats at least. To me it was a such complex problem so much so that I even considered folding AA preflop.
If you're going to fold why not just jam and see what happens?
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Old 06-05-2012, 03:55 AM   #15
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If you're going to fold why not just jam and see what happens?
Well, I couldn't decide the 4bet size so I was dragging the bar all over the place and I almost run out of time doing it. I 4bet something big and what's funny was that he wasn't even there, I mean he folded so fast it wasn't humanly possible. I think he got scared and hit the fast fold button, lol. So I don't think I lost out much because he probably won't even call 2.5x 4bet.
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