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66 UTG vs small 3b from btn 352ss flop

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04-22-2014 , 01:39 PM

Jeikeiem

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 249

vs unknown. x/r?

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #26091101

BTN: $23.52 (47 bb)
SB: $56.12 (112.2 bb)
BB: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
Hero (UTG): $50 (100 bb)
MP: $31.10 (62.2 bb)
CO: $59.32 (118.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6

Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, BTN raises to $3.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($7.75) 3

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.50, Hero?

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04-22-2014 , 01:44 PM

Peitch

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 37

Fold pre or jam, jamming is pretty terrible I think I guess against an unknown 47bb so I think folding is most +EV in this spot.

04-22-2014 , 04:29 PM

just_grindin

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,263

Hero is getting 12.5 to 1 implied+immediate odds. It might be close to call to just to set mine but I'd say it's not terrible.

On the flop I think you rep so little villain is going to snap off a lot of hands you want to fold. I'd probably just fold the flop.

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04-22-2014 , 04:31 PM

TeachMeSomething

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 192

Fold pre. Why did you call?
Call flop. You'll stack him on 4s and 6s. X/F after that.

04-22-2014 , 05:10 PM

djanney

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 116

pre is pretty standard imo with odds villian is laying us. I'm not folding the flop either. folding in either spot is just so nitty to me. Call flop and reevaluate.

04-22-2014 , 05:52 PM

just_grindin

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,263

I think calling is the worse option. We have a very hard time realizing any equity we might have. At least if you bluff you gain a ton of equity from hands like 77-99 that might want to fold.

I mean we have the 2nd nut worst made hand here, a draw to 3 clean outs that puts a 4 straight on board, and we're oop.

Another problem is if you c/r the flop as a bluff what value hands are you realistically c/r here? Does your flatting range here contain all pp?

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04-23-2014 , 12:25 AM

bankrollORfreeroll

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 35

Whoever is saying to fold pre in this situation needs to give their head a shake. This isn't a terrible flop whatsoever, but I think the only way to play this particular hand would be to raise as calling gives you little to no information on what he's holding, not to mention leaving yourself open to a raise/bluff depending if you hit or miss on the turn.

As played I would probably c/r the flop and give up the turn if he calls and you don't improve, because he probably more than likely will have you beat here.

04-23-2014 , 01:01 AM

BonitaMadras

adept

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 760

fold pre.

As played, i'm shoving the flop as this gives villain the opportunity to make a bad call with AK etc. and fold out the equity of hands like KQ, facecards, and so on. He's never folding better though.

Basically, the pot is too big to fold now and calling lets villain realize the equity with his entire range. By calling, he will also presumably not make many mistakes, i.e. he probably won't barrel off with little equity if we check/call.

04-23-2014 , 07:25 AM

mucknuts

adept

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 785

If you're gonna peel to set mine then sure, fold the flop. This feels far too weak vs an unknown sitting 50bb deep though. At least call and evaluate a turn. C/r helps protect our equity but this type of player is generally more likely to let us realize it anyway.

04-23-2014 , 03:32 PM

#10

the real mg0698

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,828

Fold pre vs the shortie. Vs a normal stack I wouldn't mind a call

04-24-2014 , 01:23 AM

#11

ForeverLearning

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 12,006

probably a fold preflop

pure setmining isn't profitable. Even if villain has AA and jams every flop, it's close to break even.

04-24-2014 , 08:56 AM

#12

TWhelan

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 8,754

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonitaMadras

Yeah this is pretty much my thoughts too.

04-24-2014 , 03:55 PM

#13

JustGood

enthusiast

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 91

Fold pre. You are burning money call x/f'ing a lot. Not to mention his range is insanely strong. You are UTG and he 3b small. I'd assume a short stacker plays pretty face up and has a monster here.

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