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06-22-2017 , 06:52 PM
Hi folk,

No reads vs vil.

So here when he cbet flop,x turn on Q and bet river i dont see a ton of bluff.

I dont like to put v on 1-2 combos but look like AQ heavy.

Most often he bets his bluff OTT, and OTR i dont see AK make this bet. Most of the time he will SD it. Its not a board where vil had so much bluff.

Your thoughts?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 56.8 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
SB: 109.46 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
BB: 121.84 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 5)
Hero (UTG): 198.98 BB
MP: 82.3 BB
CO: 103.72 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, CO raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 6 BB

Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) 8 T 8
Hero checks, CO bets 6.12 BB, Hero calls 6.12 BB

Turn: (31.74 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (31.74 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, CO bets 19.9 BB, fold

CO wins 30.16 BB

Thanks
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06-22-2017 , 09:02 PM
x/jam if you dont mind the variance

Imo x/jam > call > fold.

Otr I agree he doesnt have AK much at all. But he's probably bluffing his zero SDV hands like 76s/65s/backdoors OTF that didnt pick up additional equity OTT, etc. you can fold 77/99 and have to fold any overs floats with backdoor equity otf
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06-23-2017 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
x/jam if you dont mind the variance

Imo x/jam > call > fold.

Otr I agree he doesnt have AK much at all. But he's probably bluffing his zero SDV hands like 76s/65s/backdoors OTF that didnt pick up additional equity OTT, etc. you can fold 77/99 and have to fold any overs floats with backdoor equity otf
Ok thanks a lot mate !
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06-23-2017 , 03:25 PM
Yes he's AQ heavy, but for that price and the fact you open up his bluffing range a lot by checking all 3 streets I think you have to call this river. There are some bluffs still in his range, enough that he'd bluff and you can call profitably versus.
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06-24-2017 , 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by FreakDaddy
Yes he's AQ heavy, but for that price and the fact you open up his bluffing range a lot by checking all 3 streets I think you have to call this river. There are some bluffs still in his range, enough that he'd bluff and you can call profitably versus.
Yeah true a look like weak when checking 3 times. So need to call here.

Thanks for yours sharps advices guy!
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06-24-2017 , 11:24 PM
Bet/check/bet is a pretty strong line here. Probably folding. With no history vs your opponent i don't think you can expect to see a bluff here often enough especially vs the price he's giving you.

Not sure i like x/jamming river so much, don't rep much.
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06-24-2017 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mucknuts
Bet/check/bet is a pretty strong line here. Probably folding. With no history vs your opponent i don't think you can expect to see a bluff here often enough especially vs the price he's giving you.

Not sure i like x/jamming river so much, don't rep much.
I think it's pretty okay to x/jam OTR here with 88/QQ/TT. If we choose to do that instead of leading river, makes sense to x/jam JJ here.
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06-25-2017 , 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
I think it's pretty okay to x/jam OTR here with 88/QQ/TT. If we choose to do that instead of leading river, makes sense to x/jam JJ here.
Agree with you and i like the idea but just not sure if it's credible enough, plus villain can potentially have all of those hands too. Once we build reads and an image then i like your idea more. Just feels a little too spewy to me vs an unknown though.
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06-25-2017 , 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
I think it's pretty okay to x/jam OTR here with 88/QQ/TT. If we choose to do that instead of leading river, makes sense to x/jam JJ here.
So we don't have a c/c range ?
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06-25-2017 , 08:18 AM
check jamming seems very weak, how the f do we play the rest of our weak ass range if we do this, minotaur usually respect your responses, but not this one, FWIW i love to drunk post, yes I'm an idiot.
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