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06-09-2017 , 05:43 AM

verxina

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Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 71

Thank you for reading this post. Please give me some advice!

What is the best action on the RIVER?
Was it right fold?

I should check-back on the river?
There is no values on the turn in UTG playing range?

Every advice is helpful for me...

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 97 BB
SB: 73.26 BB
BB: 19.44 BB
UTG: 108.48 BB
Hero (MP): 102.58 BB
CO: 125.46 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (10 BB, 3 players) 2

SB checks, UTG bets 6.74 BB, Hero calls 6.74 BB, fold

Turn: (23.48 BB, 2 players) 4

UTG checks, Hero bets 14 BB, UTG calls 14 BB

River: (51.48 BB, 2 players) J

UTG checks, Hero bets 28 BB, UTG raises to 84.74 BB and is all-in, fold

UTG wins 103.48 BB

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06-09-2017 , 06:20 AM

Minatorr

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Fold pre. I almost never cold-call low PPs, esp with aggro squeezers behind. It's not profitable. People arent handing you their stacks anymore when you flop a set, and they have zero playability postflop if you dont flop one.

Bet river way larger, you're pretty polarized here

AP, folding is fine. You should have a lot of flushes here, and i dont really see too many bluffs that we need to fold besides spades.

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06-10-2017 , 04:54 AM

verxina

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Thank you.

Folding river was right, but calling pre was wrong.That makes sense.

If I had 22 on the BTN, can I call EPs raise? Just for set-mining.

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06-11-2017 , 01:36 PM

sneaky41314

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Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 31

Calling pre is fine, either raise flop bet to iso UTG and bet turn, check river or call flop bet and bet pot on turn and check river. You will only get 3 streets of value if the flush doesn't hit otherwise be happy with 1 or 2 with a set.

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06-12-2017 , 03:21 AM

verxina

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Originally Posted by sneaky41314

Thank you.
I see.
Turn bet size was too small.
Turn bet larger and river check back,
thats good idea.

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06-12-2017 , 06:56 AM

Tallie

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I don't have a sample from cold calling low pairs on MP, but I can't imagine you'r printing money with that play(unless other players are nits).
IMO, you shouldn't have a raising range on the flop. You don't have any nutted hands besides 22/33(which you prob should fold pre). Also you should protect your weaker hands by calling here.
You only have around 5 flushes in this spot(AQs, A10s, KQs, 109s, maybe 98s, 10Qs and AKs). Therefore I don't mind betting 22 value betting OTR in this spot. You can bluff here with A10s,109s and maybe some 55/66 hands.

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06-13-2017 , 12:07 AM

Eyespoker

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Its unlikely he hit a flush since UTG he wont be playing T9 nor anything worse, with the Q and J on the board that leaves him very few possible diamond combos. He is representing the flush, but could also be set of Jacks, I dont think he would bet flop and check turn with a set of Queens and a flush draw on the board. I think its either AK♦, JJ, AT♦, KT♦, or some medium pocket pair turned into a bluff like TT or 99. I think folding was the right play, If he is bluffing, he earned your money

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06-13-2017 , 12:28 AM

sneaky41314

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Originally Posted by Eyespoker

You said it's unlikely he hit a flush but then you guessed 3 of his possible hands could be flushes. Just wondering which side on the fence you are on. Not sure I believe he would call turn bet with jj and then c/shove with a set after the flush hits. Maybe c/c not c/shove. Just a different view.

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06-14-2017 , 02:35 AM

verxina

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Originally Posted by Tallie

thank you.
Humm you also think making call with 22/33 is not profitable.
I see.

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06-14-2017 , 01:32 PM

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Rewdzx

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i would fold pre for sure, I don't expect this call to be profitable at all personally.

I would probably mix it between calling and raising flop but either is fine, turn/river are really standard imo.

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06-14-2017 , 01:37 PM

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FreakDaddy

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Folding pre is usually best here. Bet the turn slightly larger, bet fold half size pot on the river. You want calls from Qx, QJ, KK+ (albeit this part of his range is diminished a little of course).

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06-18-2017 , 12:18 AM

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verxina

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Originally Posted by Rewdzx

Okay.
Thank you.

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06-18-2017 , 12:19 AM

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verxina

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Originally Posted by FreakDaddy

Folding pre is usually best here. Bet the turn slightly larger, bet fold half size pot on the river. You want calls from Qx, QJ, KK+ (albeit this part of his range is diminished a little of course).

I see.
Thank you.

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06-18-2017 , 12:19 AM

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verxina

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I will end this threads.

Thanks all guys!

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