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06-16-2017 , 04:43 PM

Grind4hotwings

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Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 70

Hi folk,

pretty ****ty sport here, i 3 bet iso the fish, two overcall behind.

I flop pretty bad, i mean 89T hit a lot all 3bet calling range...

But the fish donkbet and 90% of the time im so good vs his donkbet range (so many hands vs him ) , so here you jam and cross fingers with AA and BDFD nuts?

https://www.boomplayer.com/24267497_1AA1277230

Thanks

ps: HH converter still not working for me, same **** just a different day.

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06-16-2017 , 08:56 PM

p0ker_n00b

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3bet too small, $5 minimum vs fish's UTG open range - then 3bet bigger and bigger until you see fish are folding, then scale back a couple bb's.

Shoving was the worst thing you could do - putting your entire stack at risk with multiple players to act behind you on a really really bad flop. Almost guaranteed someone has 2 pair/set/straight/pairplus combo draws on that board.

It's ok to fold AA postflop. Repeat after me.

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06-16-2017 , 10:45 PM

mucknuts

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 785

Sizing pre is ok by default if you're a reg in these games and have regs to act behind you. Otherwise yeah go as big as you feel you can get away with.

Probably folding pre the first time in a 4 way pot. Jamming is really bad, flop is way too co-ordinated and we have like the 86th nuts.

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06-17-2017 , 11:38 AM

R00Tee

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Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 559

You only jammed this because dealing with the decision of what is actually the best play in such a ****ty spot made you uncomfortable. ****ty spots are going to happen and 9 times out of 10, if you just take the easy way out by saying "whatever, jamming can't be terrible" you're likely lighting money on fire.

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06-17-2017 , 02:19 PM

p0ker_n00b

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Originally Posted by R00Tee

This.

Also download flopzilla and then construct a range for all villains in the hand.

Then see that AA is no good.

Posting in these forums is going to do no good unless you bite down on that stick and study study study these "awkward" spots.

Then download equilab and assign hands of villains that have you beat to see your equity with AA vs their value ranges have you incredibly beat - and most of the hands they have which you are ahead of still have incredible equity pair + flush draws, etc.

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06-21-2017 , 10:06 AM

samba

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Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 14

All of the above my friend. This is never a raise on this flop, least of all a shove. Become comfortable with post flop play and work on hand ranges away from the table.

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06-22-2017 , 01:42 PM

civ77

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Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 456

Call flop, shoving is suicide on 89T v the 88-JJ, suited broadway heavy ranges you're facing in 4 spots here

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