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50NL TP + turned FD 3-way 50NL TP + turned FD 3-way

05-17-2015 , 01:39 PM
BTN seems like a reg, although I'm not sure yet.
SB seems fishy.

Flop, I decided to raise to isolate the fish.

Turn, I don't see BTN having a set. Only AQ/KK/AA beats me.
Is shoving turn actually best? Can I ever check here after raising the flop?

$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36419361

MP: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
CO: $78.08 (156.2 bb)
BTN: $70.43 (140.9 bb)
SB: $31.33 (62.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $50 (100 bb)
UTG: $118 (236 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q K
3 folds, BTN raises to $1.50, SB calls $1.25, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($4.50) 2 7 Q (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $2.15, SB calls $2.15, Hero raises to $8, BTN calls $5.85, SB calls $5.85

Turn: ($28.50) 4 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero ???
05-17-2015 , 11:42 PM
Stats? c/r with this hand is going to be too thin against most villains. When both call you definitely do not want to be jamming this hand in on the turn. On the turn I would check and hope the reg checks behind. If he bets I think you are behind his range (what hands besides flush draws can he be bluffing? Does he even bet flush draws into 2 opponents on the turn when he can just check back and realize equity for free?)

vbet blank rivs and play cautiously on ones that complete draws
05-18-2015 , 03:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KidKafka
Stats? c/r with this hand is going to be too thin against most villains.
No it's not.
05-19-2015 , 11:30 AM
c/c
05-23-2015 , 02:11 AM
Don't like check raise flop. As played ez check on the turn.
05-23-2015 , 04:09 AM
3b pre.
05-23-2015 , 11:59 AM
Very easy 3b pre.

I like how the hand is played, now rip it in
05-23-2015 , 01:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ved
now rip it in
Seems terrible.
05-24-2015 , 09:40 AM
why not value betting like 1/2 pot? You have a monster hand.
05-24-2015 , 01:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ohmydog
why not value betting like 1/2 pot? You have a monster hand.
i agree i also think his hand is very strong.

as played with a 3x open from button against an unknown-ish opponent and the fish in the sb you can be pretty confident against their ranges.


nh, got it in good.
05-26-2015 , 07:25 AM
3b PF

as plaid, dk flop: BU will too often gu in miss (and his range is pretty large) and I want to value the fish.

as plaid, I see no reason why BU cannot have a set: wouldn't you like SB to join the party if you had a set ?
XC looks like the best play to me.
05-26-2015 , 08:03 AM
Preflop depends on both players.
I'm ok with calling or 3betting without more details about them.

c/r flop is good, too

what's your problem on the turn?

Quote:
Originally Posted by duxili

as plaid, I see no reason why BU cannot have a set: wouldn't you like SB to join the party if you had a set ?
XC looks like the best play to me.
Its totally unimportant if BTN can have sets here and btw of course he can and will have them.

Ranges are pretty wide here and fish will call with many weaker hands and we have posi on the fish.

You need to make a big bet here on the turn. We want BTN and fish to pay hardly for draws

Checking the turn would cost hero much profit in the longrun and could sometimes make river play tricky depending on action and river.


If you get raised from BTN you have to check your odds and thats it.

See no reason not to bet hard on the turn.
05-26-2015 , 01:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Findblisch
Preflop depends on both players.
I'm ok with calling or 3betting without more details about them.

c/r flop is good, too

what's your problem on the turn?



Its totally unimportant if BTN can have sets here and btw of course he can and will have them.

Ranges are pretty wide here and fish will call with many weaker hands and we have posi on the fish.

You need to make a big bet here on the turn. We want BTN and fish to pay hardly for draws

Checking the turn would cost hero much profit in the longrun and could sometimes make river play tricky depending on action and river.


If you get raised from BTN you have to check your odds and thats it.

See no reason not to bet hard on the turn.
If he's betting turn 'hard' he has to call a shove regardless...

fwiw I think turn is a check.
05-26-2015 , 01:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshimiii
If he's betting turn 'hard' he has to call a shove regardless...
True.... missread stacksizes

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshimiii

fwiw I think turn is a check.
Why do u wanna check?

Your loosing a lot from the fish and the reg won't have you beat and that often and you ever have lots of outs.
05-26-2015 , 01:49 PM
You are probably right.
05-26-2015 , 05:09 PM
...jams
05-26-2015 , 08:20 PM
As played i'd check. Can't vbet against the btn and more likely to stack sb otr, plus you can get away if heart falls.

      
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