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50NL: Fold River? 50NL: Fold River?

02-25-2017 , 12:47 PM
312 hands on villain playing 27/18/11

So far, they've bet 63% of turns (22/35) and 38% of rivers (8/21). It's a small sample though so I don't want to put too much stock into these stats.

I think I made a mistake by not cbetting flop. What do people think about a shove OTT?

As played though, is river a fold or is a call good?

iPoker, €0.25/€0.50 No Limit Hold'em, 5 Players

MP: €53.20 (106.4bb)
Hero (CO): €50 (100bb)
BTN: €39.66 (79.3bb)
SB: €88.19 (176.3bb)
BB: €68.49 (136.9bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with KK
fold, Hero raises to €1.25, fold, SB raises to €4.50, fold, Hero raises to €13. SB calls

Flop: (€26.50) Q83 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: 5 (€26.50) (2 players)
SB bets €13.25, Hero calls

River: J (€53) (2 players)
SB bets €26.50, Hero calls €23.75 and is all in
02-26-2017 , 01:14 AM
everything fine. River call of course, mostly pot odds, some bluffs are possible and value bet with worse
02-28-2017 , 05:29 AM
wp
02-28-2017 , 12:41 PM
With that board, you're getting it in unfortunately (or fortunately as you should win most of these).
03-05-2017 , 03:30 PM
Super price on the river and villain might think he is value shoving something like AQ/KQ.
03-05-2017 , 03:35 PM
easy call, well played
03-05-2017 , 04:07 PM
although yes need to cbet flop
03-07-2017 , 06:06 AM
Thanks for your responses everyone!

I've been losing a lot in situations like this over the past month or so and I think I'm just starting to second guess everything
03-07-2017 , 05:31 PM
Isn't 26bb a bit big for a 4bet sizing in position 100bb deep?

I haven't looked into 4bet sizings much, but I have been going 20-22bb most of the time IP.

Also, I don't mind checking this combo bc we have the Ks. I would be betting KK no spade though everytime.
03-08-2017 , 07:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dsuds
Isn't 26bb a bit big for a 4bet sizing in position 100bb deep?

I haven't looked into 4bet sizings much, but I have been going 20-22bb most of the time IP.

Also, I don't mind checking this combo bc we have the Ks. I would be betting KK no spade though everytime.
It's funny you say that because I was making my 4bet sizings around 21-23bb and one of my friends told me that I was going way too small because I was giving villain too good of a price. Idk, but he seemed pretty adamant and has more experience than me so I started sizing larger. Perhaps going smaller was correct after all.

I would definitely cbet without K too.
03-08-2017 , 03:04 PM
Nope your friend is wrong. If you 3x and SB 9x's it, as a standard you should do 22-24bb 4-bet. Here, you should be making it 20-22.

If you are bluffing, you are giving yourself a bad price to bluff. Plus you're IP and can own him pretty badly
03-08-2017 , 04:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Minatorr
Nope your friend is wrong. If you 3x and SB 9x's it, as a standard you should do 22-24bb 4-bet. Here, you should be making it 20-22.

If you are bluffing, you are giving yourself a bad price to bluff. Plus you're IP and can own him pretty badly
Thanks for confirming
03-09-2017 , 09:50 AM
Thank you both for pointing it out.

Huge mistake I've been making there.

      
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