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3b pot facing turn donk 3x overbet, deep

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07-20-2015 , 11:21 AM

Number1Hater

Confused About Butt Stuff

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 14,108

60/30
fold to 3b 12(33)
fold to cbet 3b pot 27%
449 hands

bad fish, but is passive overall. never seen him take this line, he usually donks and gay bets most of the time.

[converted_hand][hand_history]Cake Poker, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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SB: $177.02 (177 bb)
Hero (BB): $346.98 (347 bb)
CO: $110.22 (110.2 bb)
BTN: $239.68 (239.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

2 folds, SB raises to $2, Hero raises to $10, SB calls $8

Flop: ($20) 7

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $18, SB calls $18

Turn: ($56) 5

(2 players)
SB bets $149.02 and is all-in, Hero

07-20-2015 , 11:28 AM

Peter3041

adept

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,057

gotta call IMO. Think line is just too weird to fold top set to. He could have some scare 2 pair or worse set. if he has a flush and does this then good for him but its hard to make a flush and we still have decent equity against a flush. just too much worse in his range + random fish factor.

07-20-2015 , 12:24 PM

just_grindin

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,263

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter3041

If villain does this with 2 pair then I would think he does this with a straight as well. Need 42% equity to call now and even with 21% for a full house draw it's going to be difficult to reach a break even call (which doesn't include rake loss).

Since this is the first time hero has seen this line and if hero feels comfortable with passive reads it seems like an easy fold.

07-20-2015 , 01:16 PM

Peter3041

adept

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,057

Quote:

Originally Posted by just_grindin

Its obviously close and i think a call or fold is fine. think call is slightly +EV but if you want to avoid a high variance spot that may actually be -EV thats fine. However if you can withstand the variance i would call, if it is -EV its by very little and we gain a lot of information in a spot like this that can make/save us a lot of money down the line.

07-22-2015 , 01:42 AM

Poker Playz

newbie

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 15

Call very quickly

07-22-2015 , 03:44 AM

The Zulu

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 41

I think I'm calling.

I see fish too often do this with terrible hands. Air even.

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