villain 17/14/f3 71%/4b 1.7/fvcb 3b 57%/f v turn cb single raised 41%/wtsd 20 - 5k hands



What do you guys think about nits isolating ranges? Do you think they are wide like normal reg or do they tighten up even more because they have to put in more money pre?


Anyway, on this Khi flop i feel like this nit is going to have ~ zero combos of AK and he probably folds KQ pre. So in my head his range is heavily weighted towards 99-JJ and i think this nit finds a fold with all of those to a big turn barrel.


Is my thought process too simplistic here? Am i missing something else?


Hero 21/17/3b 6.6


SB: $140.97
Hero (BB): $117.86
UTG: $65.64
CO: $110.42
BTN: $107.69

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with A 8
UTG calls $1, CO raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $14, 1 fold, CO calls $10

Flop: ($28.50) 4 K 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $14.75, CO calls $14.75

Turn: ($56.00) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $32.00,

Given his stats, I don't think he has to 4b AK or fold KJs KQs.

pre I'd rather 3b with suited connectors then A8s. vs a tight calling range I think 98s will play better post.

Depending on how they both play post, I think calling with A8s for 3bb's more can be fine. If I did 3b A8s I'd be cbetting more judiciously since we're up against a strong calling range and can have some roi.

Just going off of stats, I do not bluff turn and prob don't cbet the flop. Your reads make it so that he can't ever be calling the turn with less than a set and I doubt that's really the case for a guy who so far has folded to ~50% of cbets in 3bet pots. However, if he is actually folding JJ on this turn card, then we can also cbet a two paint card flop to fold out all his under pairs, and then barrel the turn to fold out a lot of his 2nd pair strength hands and gutters.

OK so you basically have two napkins vs this nit.

Nit's isolation raise is probably tighter than usual even on BTN but on CO I believe it's even tighter. So I don't like the 3bet preflop. I would just muck it.

As played, I think your read is a little off, someone like this can have AKo in his isolate/3bet flatting range. His F3 is 70% yet his 4bet is low, that's what I'm looking at. That just tells me that he is not aggressive preflop. I'm thinking about cbetting 1/2 pot on flop and just giving up or I'd check give up. I'm torn between two choices so I don't know what I would do. Turn is a tough spot because I don't expect him to fold to one cbet with QQ/JJ and obviously AK. So it's difficult to choose between check/folding and DBing. I would check give up turn. With your read on him having QQ/JJ, I think you should close your eyes and lead/shove river since you already DBed.

Anyway, my line "as played" is purely hypothetical since I would fold preflop.
So in general I don't like the spot you put yourself in. And I wouldn't be surprised if he did raise you on turn.

the decision of 3b pre is completly based on the reads on the nit's range of r/c pre. Don't mind 3b/f anyway.

Postflop there are some options.

- You can std c/f the flop
- You can bet OTF and 2barrell OTT if a scary (mainly an Q) or an heart falls.
- You can bet OTF and giveup OTT when a brick falls (that's what you should do as played imo)
- You can bet OTF and check OTT to potcontrol if you hit an A.

The main part of the hand is played preflop, anyway. The big problem is to know if Villain has in range AKo/KQs, which are never folding OTF and, speaking of AK, neither OTT.

i guess i was exaggerating when i said villain will have ~ zero combos of AK but i still think a guy with a 1.7% 4bet is still going to be getting in AK much more often than flatting it. If villain is thinking at all he should realise that when i make it 14bb the very very clear best play is to 4bet AK.

I would like some more opinions on what people think villains range is.

1/2 pot on flop, 1/2 pot on turn, shove river

i kinda feel like calling pre, keeping the fish in the pot, though he is a bit short so i don't hate the 3-bet either.