200NL linecheck semibluffshove bluff3betpot - Page 2 - Small Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

POW9199 · 08-06-2012, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonOnStars

hadnt 3betted so far.. think ato is decent enough to 3bbluff here

I dont like this

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Originally Posted by JasonOnStars

what do u think about flopsizing if ur plan is to shove any raise in this spot?

I love shoving, i love bluffing, and this may be ok, but i am fairly certain its only gonna be good very few times. However, i have a feeling, from the way you describe your hand, that you either get a fold, or a call from 88 w/o clubs, or Xx7c (if he can even have that pre).

Im interested in the result on this one, btw

Mike88 · 08-06-2012, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonOnStars

m8 no offense but pls go back to ur blog and grind 100nl with ur 2bb oki? and to the other guys stop ****in posting in this forum if ur not capable of including mathematical or poker related evidence. i mean cmon idiots nobody cares about ur 3word posts.

@cooki/african:
yea thats my point cookie. His range + size here is so unbalanced. I dont think he has alot of flushes in his range (actually I think he never has a flush after raising flop). Reasons for that are that he sized his raise to 52$ which first of all is fos but I think most regs tend to size their value raises small and not big in this spot. in addition to that they also tend to size it 37;38;39/47;48;49 instead of 42 / 52 (actually most 200 regs tend to size their bluff raises/bets to 50/52 in general which is quite exploitable).

Rangewise: 99tt qj,kq,aq < this is pretty much it. it doesnt rly matter at all since he doesnt have flushes in his range and we 3betted preflop hes never capable of calling a shove with his pockets and his broadways are either pure bluffs or KcQx KxQc AcQx AxQc (vs that range we flip)

This is such a narrow and ambiguous range, and it would surprise me if villain played his KcQx and KxQc this way to be honest.

And I'm not sure if you can draw any conclusions from that raise sizing. Especially against an unknown, I'd be cautious with that.

JasonOnStars · 08-06-2012, 10:48 AM

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
Prima
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($267.20) 134bb
UTG+1 ($385.18) 193bb
CO ($200) 100bb
Hero (BTN) ($214.25) 107bb
SB ($198) 99bb
BB ($200) 100bb

Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BTN A

10

1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $6, 1 fold, Hero raises to $18, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $12

Flop: 6

4

5

($39, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $18, UTG+1 raises to $52, Hero goes all-in $196.25, UTG+1 folds

Final Pot: $143

Hero wins $428.50 (net +$214.25)

UTG+1 lost $70

alextrev1111 · 08-06-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonOnStars

m8 no offense but pls go back to ur blog and grind 100nl with ur 2bb oki? and to the other guys stop ****in posting in this forum if ur not capable of including mathematical or poker related evidence. i mean cmon idiots nobody cares about ur 3word posts.

Jason, you post some hands here which are just completely redicolous and expect to get a serious answer.. this is ofcourse not suprisingly is another example, you seem to have gotten your HH but a few 0s on it and then decided to plonk it in the SSNL part of 2+2, i mean seriously this is just redicolous of course ur gonna get idiotic responses if you keep posting sh*t like this.
Also, i find it funny that you attack me about my goals thread. Seeing as you had a similiar blog and claimed a load of nonsense and then claimed to have finished it overnight/without any evidence. Obviously also noone on stars had heard about you from the people that i had spoken to, so obviously as this thread is, that was total sh*t.
For anyone wondering about this
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...y-own-1202006/
here it is, quite a good laugh

pontylad · 08-06-2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by alextrev1111

Jason, you post some hands here which are just completely redicolous and expect to get a serious answer.. this is ofcourse not suprisingly is another example, you seem to have gotten your HH but a few 0s on it and then decided to plonk it in the SSNL part of 2+2, i mean seriously this is just redicolous of course ur gonna get idiotic responses if you keep posting sh*t like this.
Also, i find it funny that you attack me about my goals thread. Seeing as you had a similiar blog and claimed a load of nonsense and then claimed to have finished it overnight/without any evidence. Obviously also noone on stars had heard about you from the people that i had spoken to, so obviously as this thread is, that was total sh*t.
For anyone wondering about this
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...y-own-1202006/
here it is, quite a good laugh

+1

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Originally Posted by JasonOnStars

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
Prima
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($267.20) 134bb
UTG+1 ($385.18) 193bb
CO ($200) 100bb
Hero (BTN) ($214.25) 107bb
SB ($198) 99bb
BB ($200) 100bb

Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BTN A

10

1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $6, 1 fold, Hero raises to $18, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $12

Flop: 6

4

5

($39, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $18, UTG+1 raises to $52, Hero goes all-in $196.25, UTG+1 folds

Final Pot: $143

Hero wins $428.50 (net +$214.25)

UTG+1 lost $70

you made him fold worse.

COOKIIIIIIIIE · 08-06-2012, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonOnStars

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
Prima
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($267.20) 134bb
UTG+1 ($385.18) 193bb
CO ($200) 100bb
Hero (BTN) ($214.25) 107bb
SB ($198) 99bb
BB ($200) 100bb

Pre-Flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BTN A

10

1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $6, 1 fold, Hero raises to $18, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $12

Flop: 6

4

5

($39, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $18, UTG+1 raises to $52, Hero goes all-in $196.25, UTG+1 folds

Final Pot: $143

Hero wins $428.50 (net +$214.25)

UTG+1 lost $70

wp wp

JasonOnStars · 08-06-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by alextrev1111

Jason, you post some hands here which are just completely redicolous and expect to get a serious answer.. this is ofcourse not suprisingly is another example, you seem to have gotten your HH but a few 0s on it and then decided to plonk it in the SSNL part of 2+2, i mean seriously this is just redicolous of course ur gonna get idiotic responses if you keep posting sh*t like this.

ur the only one posting **** m8 + what you're trying to say is that I fake HH and post them in SSNL? youre full of **** mate and maybe thats why u grind 100NL BE since ages.

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Originally Posted by pontylad

you made him fold worse.

theres quite a decent chance that he folded 99TT
+ I don't think calling here is ever good

I didn't post the full hand to show that I made him fold but caus somebody asked for the results. I'm just here to discuss hands not to argue about whether I beat the stakes or not (+I never even claimed that). But cmon guys stop posting in this forum if ur not capable of giving a decent opinion/analysis + some pokerrelated evidence.

alextrev1111 · 08-06-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonOnStars

ur the only one posting **** m8 + what you're trying to say is that I fake HH and post them in SSNL? youre full of **** mate and maybe thats why u grind 100NL BE since ages.

ohh i didnt say the hh was a total fake, i just said that the limit seemed odd for you.

and yeah obv BE ages

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??? keep posting sh*t mate

JasonOnStars · 08-06-2012, 02:06 PM

oh u finally took some coaching. hadnt checked ur blog in ages. why ur cutting out EV?

african princee · 08-06-2012, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonOnStars

1)yes I can.
2)i think v`s range is rather polarized than strong

Your so results oriented its actually funny, GL in the future sir.