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08-04-2014 , 05:54 AM

doggosu

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 108

36/24 af3.6 lag

[converted_hand][hand_history] $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
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SB: $197.25 (98.6 bb)
BB: $225.05 (112.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $227.10 (113.6 bb)
BTN: $113.46 (56.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K

Hero raises to $5, BTN folds, SB calls $4, BB calls $3

Flop: ($15) 8

(3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $11, SB raises to $33, BB folds, Hero ?? shove?

because he is raise Cb 38% .

high stat

Flop Raise or fold?

08-04-2014 , 06:29 AM

canifloatsir

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 44

Nope don't shove, you have blockers to vil potential semi bluffs, your either marginal ahead or way behind. call and play poker. Also whats vill 3 bet range cos most sets would be a 3 bet pre for me

08-04-2014 , 06:34 AM

mucknuts

adept

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 785

Check back flop for this reason - you don't know wtf to do if you get raised and you're quite likely to see this happen on this texture. Not like you're going to get 3 streets out of worse unimproved anyway.

Call now and evaluate.

08-05-2014 , 06:08 AM

canifloatsir

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 44

what i def bet flop for value, not to worried about been raised on this board after this action bcos as i said before most sets are a 3 bet pre plus so many one pair hands + GS or BDFD that call easy bet on flop. May i ask what value hands do you bet on this board if your ck back kk

08-05-2014 , 08:52 AM

the real mg0698

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,828

Fold> call> shove

08-05-2014 , 11:02 AM

Mc09burk

enthusiast

Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 95

Quote:

Originally Posted by the real mg0698

Fold> call> shove

Oh no... Don't fold!

08-05-2014 , 05:19 PM

ahariver

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 23

Call. Don't fold or shove. Reevaluate the situation on the turn.

08-07-2014 , 10:53 AM

mucknuts

adept

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 785

Quote:

Originally Posted by canifloatsir

Huh? All QQ, JJ, 88, 9T and a bunch of combo draws?

08-07-2014 , 01:19 PM

twelthraise

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 137

Quote:

Originally Posted by mucknuts

he's not paying you off on the river with his missed draws. Perhaps you can't get three streets here but that doesn't mean you should check the flop. you need value from draws while they are drawing.

08-07-2014 , 01:32 PM

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MattDaBeast

adept

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 731

He c/r in a multi-way pot on a connected board that smacks his range and you block several of his possible draws while none of his value hands.

... so yeah shove.

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