21/17; 3bet vs Co 7% ; fold24bet 63%; afq 45/34/28 ; wtsd/wwsf/wonatsd 25/50/55; fold2c-bet 3 bet pot 28%
No history.. What i should do on blank and diamond turn if he calls and what if he shoves on flop? Ty

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SB ($292)
BB ($387)
UTG ($216)
Hero ($204)
BTN ($200)

Dealt to Hero J A

fold, Hero raises to $6, BTN raises to $18, fold, fold, Hero raises to $40, BTN calls $22

FLOP ($83) 5 Q A

[color=red]Hero?

superrrrrr standard bet/call, only discussion might be how much to bet, bet small to induce or bet big... i think i go with 38-42 on the flop

only hand we are really struggling against is AQ, AK shoves pre and i doubt villian can show up with A5/AA/QQ

yup, b/c 35, shove turn

Please include the number of hands this sample is for. It would also be helpful to know the number of instances per stat.

Agree with b/c 32-35 or so.

be shure its enough number to understand what to do)

+1

and only 1 combo of AA is left, 3 QQ, 2 A5s, and 6 AQ . If he shows up with A5o I snap reload. Def shove any turn though after bet/call sequence of about 40 on flop.

for ppl sayin b/c flop, whats villains range?

I bet like 20 here.

Didn't notice this before but your 4bet is too small for being OOP.

make it like 48-52 preflop. As played easy bet /call. Hell I would C-bet my entire range here. Villains fold so often in this situation especially after you made your 4-bet so tiny he could have anything.

Who the **** told them to FLAT 4bets?! Used to be shove or fold imo but nowadays seems like their flattin a lot(at least on my site), even oop..

Although these are mostly weaker regs ime, i still haven't figured Out the best way to exploit them for doing it.
As my cbet (which usually is about 1/3 pot in 4b-pots) doesn't work out a lot anymore, since they realize they can't Play fof everytime, i am often lost on the turn as i don't really know which Range to put them on,also because i feel they mix in slowplays w aa/kk too sometimes.
That being said i don't really feel like i'm 4bing TOO much really.
Any ideas? Which is the best Way to counterfeit in these situations?

I do realize this somewhat makes their 3b-Range more depolarized and we should be inclined 2 4b for value, barrel singleraised pots relentlessly as their flattin-range gets weaker and maybe attack alot of middle- and small-Card Flops in 3b pots, cause they are 3bing hands like kq, ajs,etc. But still i don't really enjoy callin 3bets oop and we can't only go for value. Can someone help me Out pls?

People usually flat 4-bets with hands they are uncertain about and don't want to shove. hands such as 88,99,TT,JJ,QKs,JQs,AQ,AJs. Q high boards are terrible to C-bet once your 4-bet is called. I would C-bet all A, K, and boards 9 and under. Nice thing about 4-bet pots is you only need to bet 1/3 pot to get folds.

I think we have to differenciate between two cases when we estimate his preflop range:

1. villain 3bets from the blinds and calls our 4bet
2. villain 3bets in position and calls our 4bet

In case 1., he can have hands like 88, 99, QJs, AJs. But in case 2., those hands are not in his range.

I'd either check or bet $25 here. No need to bet bigger imo.

1/3p and call it off.

nwvwe bwtting more than 1/3, more likely less.