So, in this hand I felt completely lost and right after I though I butchered it

pretty hard. I don't have that much experience playing with eff stacks

300bb+ so I'd appreciate comments on every street.

Villain is a reg running 26/20 over 200 hands and he's 6tabling zoom. Obv

after 200hands I don't have any sample with his 5betting frequencies.

What do you think of his 5bet pre? Maybe I'm a nit but I think that since I

block KK there's exactly one hand that he's doing it for value with and most

100nlz population won't bluff here, especially with this sizings. If we call,

what do we do on blank runouts? Was 4betting a mistake, since now we are in a pretty grim spot?



[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #29437201

BTN: $474.26 (474.3 bb)
SB: $100.32 (100.3 bb)
Hero (BB): $327.91 (327.9 bb)
UTG: $145.45 (145.5 bb)
MP: $194.52 (194.5 bb)
CO: $100 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
UTG raises to $3, 2 folds, BTN raises to $9, SB folds, Hero raises to $23.45, UTG folds, BTN raises to $73.85

I would flat the 4bet because folding pre is too nitty but once we 5bet there is little reason to think villain will ever shove with worse.

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I would 4b pre, and this deep i'd 4b bigger. Call now and decide on runouts, but with how small btn has made SPR it might make it hard not to go busto on 7223 :s lol.

fold and show.

watching him tilt after he butchered his coolermoney with this insanely big 5-bet will make your day.

BTN has AA every day here.

fold. even in the very, very best scenario where villain is 5-betting all combos of AK, you are still a 47/53 dog against [AK, AA], and your pot odds are SUPER thin (and you will lose value because villain will almost certainly fold AK to your 6-bet). more likely, he is 5-betting 0 combos of AK, and you are a 20/80 dog. the reason we can fold here is because we are 330BB deep. that means against an range of [AA, AKs], your EV is a whopping, disgusting, -132BB. compare this to a 100BB scenario. against a range of [AA, AKs] your EV is -16BB, only a small fraction of the original loss. the other difference is villain will have QQ and AK more often in the 100BB scenario, because he will be more comfortable stacking off with those hands, which makes the 100BB scenario an easy stack-off.

i would only ship it if villain is a super aggro-tard that likes to play for huge stacks with marginal hands

I agree with everyone saying fold pre. Without much it seems unlikely that he is bluffing with that sizing and doing it with AK/QQ is awful. I was actually v close to folding but obv I decided "lol not folding KK pre" and I was angry at myself about it the second I called and there wasnt a K on the flop. Anyway, rest of the hand seems standard but still interested what people have to say. We are getting great price to call the river after calling 2 barrels but we are like never good right?

Hero calls $50.40

Flop: ($151.20) 6 5 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $22, Hero calls $22

Turn: ($195.20) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $51, Hero calls $51

River: ($297.20) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $327.41 and is all-in, Hero folds

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EDIT: How big would you make it then?

5-betting AK like this isnt awful at all. you have to fold all hands you did 4-bet unless you have KK+, and you might even fold KK

thing is not enough people are doing it at this limit.

i would 4-bet to around 28

edit: 5-betting AK like this is just suitable if the 4-bettor is on the loser side. if you have AK there are 6 combos left of AA,KK and 9 combos of AK and 6 combos of QQ. Add some bluffs and you have a profitable 5-bet.

fold to the 5bet pre.

I mean the way the action goes postflop he KNOWS you don't have AA either. Though this could be overthinking vs a 6 tabler at 100nl.

I'm pretty certain i play it the same as you. The idea of folding pre sickens me, as does folding flop and turn. Turn could be a fold if we weren't getting such a good price.

The alternative could be to flat preflop? Then i guess we'd have no 4betting range, or if we do it's polarized between AA and everything else we snap fold to a 5bet lol.

Once we put this much in I'm not folding river.