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100NL turn decision 100NL turn decision

01-31-2015 , 05:38 PM
are we raising or calling the turn and why?


    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #34569751

    BTN: $140.32 (140.3 bb)
    Hero (SB): $100 (100 bb)
    BB: $196.46 (196.5 bb)
    UTG: $102 (102 bb)
    MP: $100.50 (100.5 bb)
    CO: $101.50 (101.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with J Q
    UTG folds, MP raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.50, BB folds

    Flop: ($7) 5 9 Q (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $4.10, Hero calls $4.10

    Turn: ($15.20) J (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $9.50




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    01-31-2015 , 06:09 PM
    you definitely gotta raise either to know how strong he is and to get some value from your two pair.

    the J complete a few combos but not much likely he has completed the straight.

    your biggest concern here is a set but his bet sizes into this drawing board isn't making it much likely.

    I think call is poor because the river card can completely stop action or even complete his draw.

    so I'd raise and see what happens.
    01-31-2015 , 06:31 PM
    any reads? readless i don't think it matters too much.
    01-31-2015 , 06:45 PM
    He raised from MP so probably doesn't have KTo in his range. I think we should raise almost all our strong hands here considering the board texture.
    01-31-2015 , 08:53 PM
    He doesn't have that many hands that will want to continue vs a raise, and the ones that do will be able to play the rivers we don't like extremely well IP.

    Edit: He'll generally fold those hands on the river too (when he doesn't improve). And be unlikely to bluff them on blanks when checked to.
    02-01-2015 , 07:14 PM
    i would raise here.

    get tons of value from like KQ, J10x, Any flush. OESD LIKE 78. Its a tough position for the PFR to be in and it maximizes value IMO.
    02-01-2015 , 07:29 PM
    3 bet pre imo.
    02-02-2015 , 07:42 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AmbitiousDreamer
    i would raise here.

    get tons of value from like KQ, J10x, Any flush. OESD LIKE 78. Its a tough position for the PFR to be in and it maximizes value IMO.
    You think that villian will call a raise with KQ, AQ type a hand? And also are we happy to gii ott?
    02-03-2015 , 07:24 AM
    as played, x/c, x/c, x/c

    3bet imo like yoshimii said
    02-05-2015 , 12:14 PM
    I think turn is a flat.
    02-05-2015 , 02:55 PM
    So normally I would be 3-betting this pre, but i think because this dude is unknown its not so bad to just flat. Its even less bad (but still a little bad) if he is unknown but you are a grinder (as in, you play these stakes all the time so new players are more likley to be fish) cuz they are even less likely to fold. regardless i would like a 3-bet pre here, but its not as bad as if this guy was a well known reg.

    I think turn is a raise fo sho. So many draws are calling. Raise small is fine just set up for river shove with a good price to call. if he repops it all in just instacall
    02-05-2015 , 03:28 PM
    it's just too hard to balance an SB calling range imo

    You should really be raising all your strong hands/draws on the flop so what are you really repping on the turn?

    In practice I can't see him calling anything worse on the turn with these positions so you are just raising to protect your hand
    02-05-2015 , 03:52 PM
    I'd raise the turn to setup a river shove on safe runouts.
    02-05-2015 , 04:13 PM
    Ideally I really think you need to mix in flatting AK and AA occasionally if you want a profitable flatting range here MP vs SB. I think it's fine to flat against btn and probably most cutoff opens also if BB is straight-forward tho.

    Turn is an easy flat imo.

          
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