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Old 07-06-2012, 01:20 PM   #1
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100NL QTo squeezed pot, turn decision

CO is running 33/26 w 70% F3B, BU is 44/25 over 18 hands. What´s my line on the turn? I just started the session at that point, was my first 3bet at the table so far.



    Cake Poker, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13445002

    CO: $342.46 (342.5 bb)
    BTN: $106.10 (106.1 bb)
    Hero (SB): $111.55 (111.6 bb)
    BB: $149.38 (149.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q T
    CO raises to $2.67, BTN calls $2.67, Hero raises to $11.68, 2 folds, BTN calls $9.01

    Flop: ($27.03) T J 6 (2 players)
    Hero bets $14, BTN calls $14

    Turn: ($55.03) 2 (2 players)
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    Old 07-06-2012, 01:29 PM   #2
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    Re: 100NL QTo squeezed pot, turn decision

    Wouldn't squeeze a fisk with that hand oop. Pretty close as played.
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    Old 07-06-2012, 02:05 PM   #3
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    Re: 100NL QTo squeezed pot, turn decision

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    Wouldn't squeeze a fisk with that hand oop. Pretty close as played.
    Yeah, may be wait a little longer and watch the table more before you start squeezing this kind of hand oop.

    I mean you are looking to put a lot of money in the pot here against an unknown player who just seems to have a fishy stats but we don't know anything about his tendency or proclivity.

    The cbet size in 3bet pot is highly situational. And we just don't have enough information to decide on a optimum sizing. So if you don't know what to do or you are afraid to bet then just check/fold. If not, then just say "F*** it!!" and bet big.
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    Old 07-11-2012, 01:36 PM   #4
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    Re: 100NL QTo squeezed pot, turn decision

    probably check raise all in on the turn. flop looks good if both of your ranges are wide enough to shove over a raise. or if you know he folds to cbets instead of bluff raising some hands.

    i think if you bet the turn it's good if you want to shove the river, but i'm not sure if that's better, i just think c/r turn > bet turn once and check river.

    if you plan on c/fing turn (doesnt look like it) then c/c flop is probably better, since i bet you agree most people bluff turn after floating or bet with their 88, but some people will check these hands and also check river with showdown value, so its a little spewy sometimes without more info to c/r turn, but if we are squeezing this hand then we usually don't want to fold here.

    checking probably beats double and triple barreling if we think he doesn't bet with weak pairs and checks them down, since we get to the river free, and if he is the type of villain to bet them we can either get him to stack off light or put in money and then fold with draws or low pair, it's just we shouldn't always be stacking off light on turns because then people will adjust and bet Jx. so i guess its a situational range dependent move rather than c/r all in every single time.

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