Originally Posted by Nirwanda
Wow, plenty of hate for my "pre mistake" comment. But think about it: We get one of the best flops possible for our hand. A paired T high flop (his range don't contain many tens), and we still want to fold. My only conclusion is that we basically setmined pre(?) which is expensive against a 4x open. Looking at everyone behind us and thinking that makes coldcalling better so we can overset them or w/e is just wrong imo, when the danger of getting squeezed far outweights that scenario. I'm not saying straight out that coldcalling 77 is bad here, but we need to have plans/ideas for flops that don't give us a set or we won't profit on it. It's just my op though, feel free to argue.
I think you underestimate the fact that villain quite often just c/f a lot of flops he misses completely. Like 489tt, J28r etc. You are right that this is a good flop for our hand, but imho it's more important what villain is doing. J28 is "good" for 77 aswell, but if villain c-bets I will give up. A QT6tt is bad for our hand, but if villain checks it suddenly become good. Does it make sense?