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Old 07-21-2012, 06:06 AM   #1
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100NL: Donk-leads from regs

$0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players

CO: $100 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $168.98 (169 bb)
SB: $58.42 (58.4 bb)
BB: $100.50 (100.5 bb)
MP: $100 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4 5
2 folds, Hero raises to $3, SB folds, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) 3 4 4 (2 players)
BB bets $4.87, Hero calls $4.87

Turn: ($16.24) T (2 players)
BB bets $10, Hero calls $10

River: ($36.24) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $25, Hero

Villain was 24/17 over 2.5k hands. He has a 5.6% 3bet, 28% WTSD and 43% WWSF. I think he is kind of bad pre-flop and post-flop. He squeezed IP then cbet/folded 4way 4th to act on Ts8s6s, and berated the guy who shoved. He c/ced flop, c-raised turn and shoved river with KTs on QT9r K 3 vs a tight MP pfr. Seen him 3barrel AQ on K23r 3 K BvB vs reg (3/5p, 2/3p, 1/2pot river), though that might be standard idk.
He goes crazy if someone 3bets him pre-flop, also saw him 3bet/5bet shove A6o vs a str8-forward BT opener as well. He tends to 2barrel me a lot, or bet check bet in his pots, one time he 2barreled with 33 on AsKs2d 9d IP and checked back river against me. Despite all this though, he will give up occationally on flop in his pots, and his fold to cbet is 59% ^^.
This is the 2nd time villain has lead vs me(Q54r was 1st for 1/2pot, i folded), but he has a 10%(78) donk-bet stat.

I don't rly know how to handle this situation, i mean, how loose should i call on the flop?
While opening a 45% range pre..

Flop: 334ss (flop combos: 574c)
574 * .6 = 344c: 44 33 A4s K4s Q4s J4s 64s 54s(16c) AA-55(60c) A3s K3s Q3s J3s(12) AK-A7(112c) A6s A5s A2s(12) KQ(16) additional FDs: 37, SDs: 9=only 274c

Seems impossible to defend enough, with such a wide open... although, perhaps i should have a wide raising range?

Also, do you like leading here as a bluff often in villain's shoes? If so, how would you handle a raise by the pfr? Just shoving over it 100% till you run into a hand?
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Old 07-21-2012, 08:37 AM   #2
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Re: 100NL: Donk-leads from regs

i wouldn't worry about defending a GTO range when he leads in these spots. he sounds like the type to overvalue hands (like the KT on TQ9Kx) so he's probably going to make huge mistakes and stack off too light when you have a value hand (like now) which will more than compensate for folding more than is strictly optimal.

i'd raise flop with this particular hand. if he folds we can assume he's leading some pure air in these spots and then start raising his leads more often. plus, it gives him the chance to go nuts and 3b 55+/fds.

as played i'd fold river because it's unlikely he has a total airball (if he's leading the flop as a bluff i expect he has a spade a decent % of the time) and i don't think he's turning something like 55 into a bluff.
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Old 07-21-2012, 09:10 AM   #3
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Re: 100NL: Donk-leads from regs

This is one of the few runouts where you're in a tough spot so calling down isn't bad, but like you're saying: raise flop seems right against a spazz who can attempt a rebluff and get it in with fd's/sd's.

Floating a really wide range on the flop and raising a lot of turns could be viable too - I think that would be a less comfortable position for villain and you would probably induce a lot of mistakes as that's a far less common situation. Plus you win more from bluffs. I'd say if he's airballing, then call-raise turn is the line but if he's rebluffing flops or stacking off with overpairs and fd's then take the simpler line and raise there.
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Old 07-22-2012, 02:15 AM   #4
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Re: 100NL: Donk-leads from regs

definitely feel like this is a fairly easy 3 streets of value calldown.

u just got unlucky and hit the nut low of runouts pretty much.

obviously whether or not to call in this particular hand as played is very villain dependent, tho i think people fold a little too frequently here, given that he has very few value bets in his range.
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Old 07-22-2012, 05:54 AM   #5
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Re: 100NL: Donk-leads from regs

Ty for replys.

Do you think it's a good spot for him to bluff? Considering how many hands i have to call with unless i just blindly bluff raise him everytime ofc.
Or will it only work on weaker regs like myself?
Was thinking of trying it, myself you see..
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Old 07-22-2012, 08:41 AM   #6
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Donk bets HU seem to be insanely weighted towards vulnerable overpairs in my experience, dunno if this means we should just raise them 100% or not.
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Old 07-22-2012, 06:39 PM   #7
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Re: 100NL: Donk-leads from regs

You're opening A7o but not A5o? hmmm
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Old 07-22-2012, 07:51 PM   #8
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Re: 100NL: Donk-leads from regs

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Donk bets HU seem to be insanely weighted towards vulnerable overpairs in my experience, dunno if this means we should just raise them 100% or not.
I would have thought, if they where leading a pair here, then they are loving it if they get raised..

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You're opening A7o but not A5o? hmmm
Sure, A7o is stronger vs a rec player(SB), but they are only marginally different vs regs, and i would open neither vs both reg blinds. Correct me if im wrong.
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Old 07-22-2012, 09:08 PM   #9
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Re: 100NL: Donk-leads from regs

Probably raising flop. As played I'm calling down against this guy.
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:54 PM   #10
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Re: 100NL: Donk-leads from regs

raise flop
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:02 AM   #11
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Re: 100NL: Donk-leads from regs

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i wouldn't worry about defending a GTO range when he leads in these spots. he sounds like the type to overvalue hands (like the KT on TQ9Kx) so he's probably going to make huge mistakes and stack off too light when you have a value hand (like now) which will more than compensate for folding more than is strictly optimal.

i'd raise flop with this particular hand. if he folds we can assume he's leading some pure air in these spots and then start raising his leads more often. plus, it gives him the chance to go nuts and 3b 55+/fds.

as played i'd fold river because it's unlikely he has a total airball (if he's leading the flop as a bluff i expect he has a spade a decent % of the time) and i don't think he's turning something like 55 into a bluff.
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Old 07-24-2012, 04:07 AM   #12
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Re: 100NL: Donk-leads from regs

I am folding this river. I doubt this villain turns very many hands into complete bluffs by the river but it is possible how you described him.
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