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Old 08-02-2012, 10:33 AM   #1
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100NL bluffshove river linecheck

vs fish dno played rly weird. He never donked boardpairs before. assume his range is rly pocketpair heavy. he seemed to be a bit station and I was afraid of him randomheroing some of his pockets if I raise river to 55€~

Dont have stats anymore caus anontables

Is the shove + EV if the only hand he calls is Qx? (yea he can donk random qx here)

$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
Prima
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($167.74) 168bb
UTG+1 ($114.13) 114bb
Hero (CO) ($103) 103bb
BTN ($121.16) 121bb
SB ($220.34) 220bb
BB ($103.26) 103bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is CO 10 9
2 folds, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, BB calls $2

Flop: 8 3 8 ($6.50, 2 players)
BB bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

Turn: Q ($13.50, 2 players)
BB bets $8, Hero calls $8

River: 8 ($29.50, 2 players)
BB bets $20, Hero goes all-in $88.50

Final Pot: $69.50


flop/turn
Im almost always float/doublefloating this board if he donks especially with my gutshot.
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Old 08-02-2012, 12:18 PM   #2
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Re: 100NL bluffshove river linecheck

Seems pretty bad vs a fish
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Old 08-02-2012, 12:27 PM   #3
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Re: 100NL bluffshove river linecheck

just fold flop, you have ten high.

people aren't fans of folding full houses, so you're burning money trying to get a fish to fold one.
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Old 08-02-2012, 12:30 PM   #4
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Re: 100NL bluffshove river linecheck

Ditto, it's unlikely he folds a mid pair, Q and occassionally looks you up with a 3.
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Old 08-02-2012, 04:33 PM   #5
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Re: 100NL bluffshove river linecheck

i wouldn't try and bluff the fish here, i don't think he's folding enough.
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Old 08-02-2012, 09:13 PM   #6
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Re: 100NL bluffshove river linecheck

fish don't fold full houses. He probably had complete air when you raised the river. Usually fish donk air on dry boards. I would be more happy raising the turn here rather then the river. This way we don't need to commit as much.
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Old 08-03-2012, 01:55 AM   #7
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Re: 100NL bluffshove river linecheck

Even if I would agree with the flop call (which I don't) I think shoving the river is a huge mistake.

Generally if you want to fight back vs a fish you want to call down light, and shove rivers against aggressive regulars who valuebet light.
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:27 AM   #8
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Re: 100NL bluffshove river linecheck

did you really try to make a station fold a boat?
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Old 08-04-2012, 07:36 AM   #9
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Re: 100NL bluffshove river linecheck

Zeebo's theorem period.
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Old 08-05-2012, 01:06 PM   #10
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Re: 100NL bluffshove river linecheck

Little confused on the call, call, ship/bluff line. are 3 barrel's w/air in a "fishes" arsonel. I would have to assume he had atleast an A3 here. Stated earlier fish hate folding boats so a bluff here is always -EV, unless he has also, but again thats unlikley. If you raised the turn i think you could of had a better idea of your fold equity going into the river if you missed...who won the pot??
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Old 08-05-2012, 01:26 PM   #11
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Re: 100NL bluffshove river linecheck

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Originally Posted by prs_king187 View Post
who won the pot??

Final Pot: $69.50
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Old 08-06-2012, 07:41 AM   #12
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Re: 100NL bluffshove river linecheck

If you want to make him fold a better hand, raising turn >> raising river.
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