$0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

BB: $106.40 (106.4 bb)
UTG: $177.11 (177.1 bb)
MP: $175.60 (175.6 bb)
CO: $39.60 (39.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): $100 (100 bb)
SB: $40 (40 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J A
3 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, SB folds, BB raises to $9, Hero calls $6.50

Flop: ($18.50) 3 3 9 (2 players)
BB bets $8.50, Hero calls $8.50

Turn: ($35.50) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($35.50) 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Villain was 20/17 with 7.9% 3bet over 150 hands, no reads/pots played of relevance. I felt compelled to call the flop since im folding too much of my very weak call of 3bet range otherwise. But i end up checking it down since it feels a bit wrong to bet turn/river, but im not sure how everyone else plays this and would love to know.

I like the flat preflop. I'd flat his cbet on flop. I'd bet 3/4 pot on turn to see what he does but basically I wanna fold out AK/AQ and OC that can suck out or draw out on river and obviously his air. And if he flats with 66-88 then we still have a chance to make him fold it on river.

As played, no sense firing river at this point because he probably won't fold 66-88 if you stab.

He had 88 or AK?

fold pre, fold flop, easy game. leveling yourself otherwise.

Think I probably bet turn and river because he shouldn't really be bluffcatching 9x vs you and you can fold out some random better hands. Also when he doesn't barrel the T turn that pretty much rules out all the non ahi hands you beat.

I would rather 4b pre than flat with no reads whatsoever. if you float flop is to stab turn cause I doubt u have much SD value here once he checks

i usualy vs this guys that i don't have any reads yet just fold this hand
if it was AJs then flating is good, given that it will give you much more flexibility postflop

river i just take showdown

What's our value range for flatting PF, flatting flop and betting turn+river? My guess is that most people potcontrol one street with Tx- in our shoes.

Vs a thinking player checkback turn to bet river may be the better line. But I think at these stakes it's not very good because you'l get called by AK because "everything went according to pla, I potcontrolled a street and now he bluffs harhar" is the most likely thought process.

Somewhat undecided on how I'd play the hand other than liking the flat PF and on the flop in a vacuum vs an 8% total 3bettor with no further reads. May sound strange but I think it was played just fine eventhough we will very rarely win the hand since the playerpool of "8%PF 3bettors with no further reads" is likely to bluff on with everything/a ton of stuff we beat on the turn like Queen6Suited AND also going to bluffcatch one street no matter the order.
Just pure out aggro mode turn+river bet while not repping too much may be good but it's pretty expensive to find out.

this.

Also, I can see him just c/c down a random T he paired which makes me hesitant to barrel off.

Against the top 8% of his hand range (hes prob 3betting more from this spot in particular and not only value 3betting).

Easy flop call, i expect him to bluff a ton on Ax turns as well as Jx turns. He bet UNDER half pot. I prob check it down and expect to be good not too often but still sometimes. I don't think a bluff gets much credit.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

986,040 games 0.011 secs 89,640,000 games/sec

Board: 9h 3c 3s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 67.282% 58.99% 08.29% 581676 81756.00 { 88+, ATs+, KTs+, QJs, AJo+ }
Hand 1: 32.718% 24.43% 08.29% 240852 81756.00 { AJo }


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So what is our preflop flat range?

Cheers for replys all.

Results:


Mostly just suited connectors weak pairs and broadway hands. Just a really trashy range.

Never post results.

Since you did...what notes should you take, what assumptions can you make and test int he future?

Ok :-\
I didn't think there was any notes to be taken/assumptions to be made, enlighten me.

Curious about this bit, don't really get what you mean?
I don't mean bluff with everything, I actually thought this was BTN vs SB so assumed a lot of his turn bluffrange would have picked up gutshots/straightdraws ott.

I would just note 1/2 pot cbet dry board AKhi after cbetting pre, and maybe doesnt bluff his sdv in 3bet pots?

Missing a said..."like Queen6Suited said"