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Originally Posted by N0M3RCY
How did you get 40% vs his c/r range. What combos do you really think is he c/r flop with? I'm a little bit confused, because if he is c/r, he isn't c/f probablly.. so seems like nuts to me (flopped flush or set of 88?), but players are probablly a lot more loose at NL100. However, you block 78 and I don't know if he is calling your 3b with AJo+ (and then have a blocker that would c/r)..
I also don't know how often do players flat call 3b with QQ+ on NL100.
The comment about being able to bluff turn was hypothetical if he were to c/c flop instead of c/r. My range thoughts were this - I think it's reasonable for him to get here with TT-QQ. I didn't include AA KK. Basing most of my logic on him c/r with most of continuing range, trying to GII otf.
Mainly because he's oop calling 3bet, wet flop and most players will commit right here.
I tweaked bcz you led me to think more conservatively and now see 32% equity vs is c/r range (originally had KQo hands with clubs and AK with Kc)...
88-QQ - any 88 and any 99 -QQ w a club
AKs AQs of clubs (ok these maybe wayyy more likely to flat w/ nuts +blockers so i removed these too)
AQ w A of clubs
AK w A of clubs
His flatting range and how we continue against it - also you have helped me realize that KQo w club and AK AQ w KorQ of clubs are usually flatting flop. Leaving others out bcz I have blockers and rarely give anyone credit for getting here pre w 22-77.
So lets say I plan to bet 2/3 pot on certain turns after being flatted
99-QQ w no clubs - all fold when I bluff club AQorK (12 of 26 combos fold on 36% of turns)
(KQ AQ AK)w K or Q of club - fold if turn is not an AKQ or club (12 of 26 combos fold on 58 % of turns)
AQ AK of clubs - (2 of 26 combos fold 0%)
So now I see the reverse of my original logic... if flatted only bluff turns that are NOT an AKQ or club, and take our equity vs those non-club TT-QQ when turn is a club.
OK not sure where to take it from here, definitely looking worse than thin in any scenario that includes betting flop. Thanks for all the comments, pretty clear consensus, just trying to improve w/ playing + evaluating rnge vs rnge