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100 NL River spot, to bet or not to bet vs fish. 100 NL River spot, to bet or not to bet vs fish.

05-24-2016 , 11:51 AM
I was not sure about the river bet. My reasoning for betting was basically the guy seemed like a massive fish who might never be able to fold worse hands like 2pair, sets or even top pair. Also if he has the flush there is a chance he would donk the river with it, being worried I check back maybe. Would you guys go for the bet or xback, maybe bet smaller?


PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $100.00
SB: $293.41 (VPIP: 28.15, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 5.21, Hands: 279)
BB: $302.24 (VPIP: 24.38, PFR: 18.83, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 330)
UTG: $145.06 (VPIP: 38.89, PFR: 38.89, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 18)
MP: $64.11 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
CO: $232.13 (VPIP: 35.14, PFR: 29.73, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 78)

SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has 9 J

fold, MP calls $1.00, fold, Hero raises to $3.50, fold, fold, MP calls $2.50

Flop: ($8.50, 2 players) 2 K T
MP checks, Hero bets $4.50, MP calls $4.50

Turn: ($17.50, 2 players) Q
MP checks, Hero bets $10.00, MP calls $10.00

River: ($37.50, 2 players) 4
MP checks, Hero bets $27.50, MP raises to $46.11 and is all-in, Hero calls $18.61

MP shows A 5 (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 56%, Flop 78%, Turn 100%)
Hero shows 9 J (Straight, King High)
(Pre 44%, Flop 22%, Turn 0%)
MP wins $127.22
05-24-2016 , 04:40 PM
Don't post results..

I would bet turn and river slightly smaller so that you can bet/fold turn and river.

Bet 9 on the turn, and bet 18 on the river.
05-24-2016 , 06:39 PM
+1 to smaller sizings. You could still probably fold the river though. Nothing says you have to throw more money away if you don't think you can win 13% of the time (though I get how few combos it takes from villain to make it an ok call.

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05-24-2016 , 07:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by keybattle
Don't post results..
I never quite understood this, I mean I'm reviewing the hand including the results right and wondering about my play: is it good or bad, just a cooler etc.? So in seeking advice on that it makes sense to me to present the complete casus exactly like I encountered it.
05-24-2016 , 11:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by daily147
I never quite understood this, I mean I'm reviewing the hand including the results right and wondering about my play: is it good or bad, just a cooler etc.? So in seeking advice on that it makes sense to me to present the complete casus exactly like I encountered it.
When you're playing the hand do you know exactly what cards villain holds?

Knowing the end usually adds bias to answers and can make almost any play defensible.
05-27-2016 , 10:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by daily147
I never quite understood this, I mean I'm reviewing the hand including the results right and wondering about my play: is it good or bad, just a cooler etc.? So in seeking advice on that it makes sense to me to present the complete casus exactly like I encountered it.
Because you want unbiased non-results oriented advice about how the hand played out at each decision point in the hand.

For what it's worth, I'm nthing the smaller sizing and you can safely bet/fold river, even with this sizing.
05-28-2016 , 03:01 AM
I think your play is standard, but I would have bet much bigger OTT and an over bet river shove. I mean vill
ain seems fishy and given only 60bbs of stack size..
05-28-2016 , 03:27 AM
bigger pre

postflop bet sizing is debatable...fish don't respond logically to bet sizes so most anything could be okay. In a vacuum I'd bet the flop larger and the turn smaller.

turn bet is fine but river is a xb unless you bet super small.

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