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1/2 KK in the BB. 1/2 KK in the BB.

12-01-2014 , 11:46 PM
BTN: $494
Villain (SB): $226
Hero (BB): $197
UTG: $100
UTG+1: $51.90
CO: $172

Preflop: Hero is BB with Kh Kd
2 folds, CO raises to $4, BTN folds, Villain (SB) calls $3, Hero raises to $14, CO folds, Villain (SB) calls $10

Flop: ($32) 2s 6d 6s (2 players)
Villain bets $16, Hero raises to $40, Villain calls $24

Turn: ($112) 6h (2 players)
Villain bets $50, Hero??

Last edited by wihasuby; 12-02-2014 at 12:01 AM.
12-02-2014 , 03:16 AM
not folding
01-25-2015 , 03:59 AM
Ship it. You have villains range crushed. Think he's more likely to put the money in on the turn with a hand like 99 after he bet $50 than on the river when a scare card may make him c/f.
01-25-2015 , 10:05 AM
Does anyone just call the flop bet instead of raise?
01-25-2015 , 10:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ricedaddy
Does anyone just call the flop bet instead of raise?
I think it's fine either way but, yeah, i usually just flat the flop.

I mostly agree that, as played, we want to go ahead and ship the turn before a bad card comes off and kills our action. Depends on villain though, against an aggressive player who will either barrel off or check and call with most of his range on the river calling is obv better.
01-25-2015 , 04:31 PM
As played I'm shoving, think all cards 10 or higher have some action-killing potential.

As for the flop, I think I prefer a larger raise than the one you made in most circumstances. For the hands you're getting the most value from (mid-pps) there are a ton of cards that would kill your action (any spade, 10 or higher like aforementioned). I think these hands might barrel a bad turn or even c/c, but I think that if you get to the river he will either shutdown or c/f.

On the other hand, I think these hands are pretty likely to call a flop raise- and I think 7s+ actually call the turn a decent amount of the time on a good amount of the "action killing" cards.

All in all I see a raise/bet line extracting more value than any line that emerges out of calling the flop.
01-27-2015 , 02:25 PM
It's definitely a call both river and turn.
01-27-2015 , 07:15 PM
I would call and value the river if checks and jam if bets. If you raise the turn your range is polarized to AA QQ KK JJ. These ppl talking about cards for your value on the river are nuts. Who is calling a double barrel here with no pair.
01-28-2015 , 08:31 AM
KK vs 88, ship it turn

      
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