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Old 07-13-2012, 01:48 PM   #16
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Re: Whats the last level you can get away with only limping preflop

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But still, there's absolutely no reason and it's pretty terrible to ALWAYS limp. I can def get on board tho that at the right tables you should limp a lot from ep.
Not sure that we are discussing ALWAYS limping. The goal is to get better at the game and move up, so really players at these levels should be trying to learn what are good hands to raise (and 3 bet)with and trying to hit flops hard/get away from missed flops(understanding opponents range and equity calculations.) That being said, it is easy to have everybody limp, or even everybody(or 5 out of 6) call a single pf raise, so it makes sens when there is a single nutty component to simply limp. Sadly there will rarely be opportunity to 3bet like at higher stakes, and a 4bet is even less likely at the micros.

I think that .5/1 maybe and definitely 1/2 limping from ep is giving money away when your hand is too poor to call a raise, let alone a 3 bet.

And is it an optimal strategy?
I think the answer is probably, if you are not losing a lot on missed/marginally hit flops. Therefore, it depends on the individual players ability to understand the true value of the hand and not get carried away with too many bluffs or FPSisms.
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Old 07-13-2012, 06:53 PM   #17
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Re: Whats the last level you can get away with only limping preflop

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But still, there's absolutely no reason and it's pretty terrible to ALWAYS limp. I can def get on board tho that at the right tables you should limp a lot from ep.
Clearly always limping isn't gonna be optimal

I think I'd probably have pf stats something like 50/20/3 at these ultra loose passive tables
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:28 PM   #18
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Re: Whats the last level you can get away with only limping preflop

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Not sure that we are discussing ALWAYS limping. .
See thread title: "only limping"
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:31 PM   #19
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Re: Whats the last level you can get away with only limping preflop

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Clearly always limping isn't gonna be optimal

I think I'd probably have pf stats something like 50/20/3 at these ultra loose passive tables
I'd three bet and raise slightly more, but these sound right for a very good PLO player at these stakes. However, pretty much by definition anyone who is at these stakes prob doesn't have as good of a grasp of the game so should play more tag
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Old 07-14-2012, 08:33 PM   #20
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Re: Whats the last level you can get away with only limping preflop

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See thread title: "only limping"
Haha. You are right. Sorry, not an attack on you, came out wrong, was meant as more of a question:

"Not sure that we are discussing ALWAYS limping anymore...because that is a terrible strategy" is how I would have wanted it to read.

I was referencing that it seemed we had come to the conclusion that "Always" or "only" limping is bad at any level, and were moving towards how occasionally limping in the right situations(especially at the micros) could be good and possibly optimal to mix things up.
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Old 07-14-2012, 10:48 PM   #21
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Skjervoy limps sometimes at 10/20+
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