http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hand...356_65B4547295

Obviously pleased with how the hand actually went, just curious what the thoughts on my line are. Is anyone ever just flatting the river? I don't know about re-raising the turn, seems to smell like a blocker bluff to me vs an unknown. I think I get looked up by a lot in this spot by anything if I re-raise the turn. I took a bit of a weird line as I'm betting a lot of my A high flush draw combos on the flop. His river shove just made absolutely no sense, would of been a sick value bet with the K high flush though. Thoughts?

The thing about playing the nut blocker is that your line has to look credible - i.e. for balance you have to play your blockers the same way you'd play the nfd or nut flush itself to both make your bluffs look credible and to get paid off when you have it.

I think with the blocker you should have bet flop yourself and continue on any diamond turn. Obviously the hand turned out better than expected and villain decided to make a spewy bluff 3bet jam on the river with straight blockers either because he was bad or he didn't think your line looked like a flush because you didn't cbet flop and raised turn which I don't think you'll be doing a whole bunch with the actual nut flush itself so he'd be justified in being suspicious of your line. Villain never has K high flush on river I don't think, after you raise river he can't jam K high flush because nothing better folds obviously and Q high flush and worse don't call very often at all.

And because of some of the ideas discussed above its an easy call on the river because I don't think he does this with many hands that aren't pure bluffs as pretty much everything is looking for a cheap showdown up to and including straights and his thinly valuebet flushes either fold or flat your river raise, never jamming.

Call turn/call river is bad. Call turn/Raise river is OK vs a tight player, but it looks like your read was off because someone 3bet river bluffing here is never folding a made hand.

Honestly I would have said fold river to the 3bet. I see more over-excited-gii-with-flush type plays than wild bluffs from unknowns.

Nice one mate

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I find it hard to believe people get over excited and 3bet jam worse than the nut flush on the river for value at that SPR, they'd have to be bad themselves or expect us to call off with most flushes (or worse) to make it profitable. When we raise river villain is only 3bet jamming bluffs or the nuts I think but considering we have the nut blocker and that I don't think people turn straights, 2pairs, sets etc. Into bluffs all that often I find it hard to see villain with flushes here unless he's psychic and somehow figures we never have the nut flush in this spot and will be merrily paying him off with worse lol.

I'm definitely 3-betting Kdd as villain in that spot. Pretty easy 3b actually.

Villain's line is completely bat**** though. I feel there's something OP is withholding about that player, like he's a known maniac or whatever.

But in our shoes, what portion of our value range do we raise OTR that's calling the 3bet?

Don't like the river sizing, your value range is nutflush only and you're only bluffing like this when you have the Ad blocker (Unless my assumption that your value range is Add only is wrong). Thus when you're valuebetting you want the max value and when you're bluffing you aren't worried about him having the nuts, so you're giving all his bluffcatchers a good price (in a spot where you're bluff heavy since you say you're cbetting most of your Add combos).

Say you're villain and OP raises here. Do you think he raise/calls Qdd?
Besides tilt-factor to get OP to be annoyed that he got a surprising river 3bet when he holds Ad, what can he call with (barring this strange hand)?

I must be playing too much in my local cash games with dozens of weak-tight postflop players, I'm still thinking about this river. If i'm sitting on Kdd and I 3bet jam river, do I often expect to get called by Qdd or worse for that matter? because as I see it Qdd and worse are obviously hating life and probably sigh fold a lot and Add snaps off for reverse value town.

As this hand played out, say we are in villains shoes with Kdd and we look at (hero's) line and it looks way too suspicious to be Add and is likely a bluff (which it happened to be) why 3bet jam river when all bluffs fold and worse value hands are put in a gross spot that just have to fold most of the time and the actual Add hands just snap off? It's a suspect 3bet jam with Kdd in my eyes, which is why the more I look at this hand the more I think villains 3bet on river is pretty much never a flush which i think flat our river raise at best and everything else would be x/c or b/c at best OTR as well.