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02-19-2017 , 08:01 PM
Hi all,

Ran into this villain early into a session. Didn't have any reads on them so I had to play every with them straight forward.

When I make the standard raise from UTG and get reraised from the SB, I put villain on anything from premiums to 10 high run downs. But NEVER this. So should I add this to any villians 3-betting range or chalk this up as a rare and expensive occurance ?
    WPN, $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37642702

    MP: $5 (100 bb)
    Hero (CO): $14.38 (287.6 bb)
    BTN: $44.50 (890 bb)
    SB: $6.60 (132 bb)
    BB: $5.70 (114 bb)
    UTG: $6.50 (130 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with Q 6 K T
    2 folds, Hero raises to $0.17, BTN folds, SB raises to $0.41, BB folds, Hero calls $0.24

    Flop: ($0.87) 6 6 3 (2 players)
    SB bets $0.83, Hero raises to $3.32, SB raises to $6.19, Hero calls $2.87

    Turn: ($13.25) 4 (2 players)
    River: ($13.25) 7 (2 players)




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    02-19-2017 , 08:42 PM
    fold pre and fold to 3 bet.

    as played your not goign anywhere. If villain wants to 3 bet low connectors OOP then good on him. Not a profitable play as he gets 4 bet often.
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    02-19-2017 , 08:48 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lucaspawpaw16
    If villain wants to 3 bet low connectors OOP then good on him. Not a profitable play as he gets 4 bet often.
    Agreed low connectors are horrible vs 4betting ranges which consist of mostly AA in these games.
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    02-19-2017 , 09:52 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lucaspawpaw16
    fold pre and fold to 3 bet.
    Why is a fold pre or fold to a 3 bet?
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    02-20-2017 , 02:21 AM
    Preflop is marginal so folding is better than raising from the CO.

    Flop line isn't horrible, but I'd prefer calling over raising. Definitely don't fold to the flop 3b once you've raised.
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    02-20-2017 , 02:24 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lucaspawpaw16
    fold pre and fold to 3 bet.
    hi omahafanatical
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    02-20-2017 , 02:42 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AveeMaria
    Preflop is marginal so folding is better than raising from the CO.
    Other than holding the 2nd and 3rd nut and it has decent connectivity, why would this hand be a fold in the CO? Not trying to 2nd guess what you are saying, just looking for a better understanding as to why this a fold pre?
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    02-20-2017 , 02:48 AM
    You are second guessing what he is saying, as you should be
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    02-20-2017 , 03:25 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tejas_Escorpion
    Other than holding the 2nd and 3rd nut and it has decent connectivity, why would this hand be a fold in the CO? Not trying to 2nd guess what you are saying, just looking for a better understanding as to why this a fold pre?
    The most glaring issues with the hand are the lack of the nut suit, the dangler, and even the gappy top 3. You've also mentioned the 3 diamonds and the fourth nut blocker in your post which aren't great but probably not as impactful as the preceding points.
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    02-20-2017 , 06:22 AM
    Question for those suggesting to fold to 3b.

    What is your fold to 3bet %?

    With position and a high SPR, I see nothing wrong with calling the 3b and seeing a flop.
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    02-20-2017 , 09:00 AM
    Whole hand seems fine to me, pre is marginal but if btn isn't agressive we don't really suffer from it

    Folding to the 3! (Which is tiny to begin with) Would be awful
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    02-20-2017 , 09:42 AM
    How is this weird?
    If villain can assume you think 90% of his 3bets are aces, why shouldent he 3bet other hands?
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    02-20-2017 , 02:52 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kozat
    How is this weird?
    If villain can assume you think 90% of his 3bets are aces, why shouldent he 3bet other hands?
    What if villain can assume you know he assume you think 90% of his 3bets are aces, should he 3bet other hands?
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    02-20-2017 , 06:02 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tejas_Escorpion
    Hi all,

    Ran into this villain early into a session. Didn't have any reads on them so I had to play every with them straight forward.

    When I make the standard raise from UTG and get reraised from the SB, I put villain on anything from premiums to 10 high run downs. But NEVER this. So should I add this to any villians 3-betting range or chalk this up as a rare and expensive occurance ?
    You're not UTG.
    Chalk this up to realizing you're very bad and need to learn basic strategy if you don't want more "expensive occurrences".

    Last edited by .isolated; 02-20-2017 at 06:04 PM. Reason: very bad, very
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    02-20-2017 , 06:33 PM
    Cutoff, utg, close enough
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    02-20-2017 , 11:55 PM
    Pre open is marginal, I probably do it more than I should. This actually is the type of hand I routinely fold to 3bets when OOP, 100bb deep, facing pot size, etc., but we aren't any of those so it's just an easy call.

    As played flop raise is best, it's just a solid and obvious value spot in which we're never in bad shape.
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