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07-15-2012 , 08:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DRoseMJD
first of many entries

    Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13527812

    BTN: $87.30 (87.3 bb)
    SB: $133.43 (133.4 bb)
    Hero (BB): $130.80 (130.8 bb)
    MP: $154.57 (154.6 bb)
    CO: $24.18 (24.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 2 5 6 3
    3 folds, SB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

    Flop: ($6) 4 7 K (2 players)
    SB bets $4.29, Hero raises to $14, SB calls $9.71

    Turn: ($34) Q (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $24, SB calls $24

    River: ($82) 4 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $49, SB calls $49

    Results: $180 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 4 7 K Q 4
    SB showed Q A 6 T and won $177.20 ($87.20 net)
    Hero showed 2 5 6 3 and lost (-$90 net)



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    Why not potting turn? I want him to fold out a higher FD you know...
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    07-15-2012 , 09:32 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JustAmazing777
    Why not potting turn? I want him to fold out a higher FD you know...
    yeah turn sizing def should be bigger
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    07-15-2012 , 09:44 AM
    oops

    Grabbed by Holdem Manager
    PL Omaha $1(BB) Poker Stars
    Hero ($274)
    BB ($533)
    UTG ($255)
    CO ($508)
    BTN ($283)

    BTN antes $0.20
    Hero antes $0.20
    BB antes $0.20
    UTG antes $0.20
    CO antes $0.20

    Dealt to Hero K J K 3

    fold, CO raises to $4, BTN calls $4, Hero calls $3.50, BB calls $3

    FLOP ($17) J 4 2

    Hero bets $12, BB calls $12, CO folds, BTN folds

    TURN ($41) J 4 2 T

    Hero bets $29, BB raises to $80, Hero calls $51

    RIVER ($201) J 4 2 T 9

    Hero bets $178 (AI), BB calls $178

    Hero shows K J K 3
    (Pre 68%, Flop 13.0%, Turn 25.0%)

    BB shows J Q J 4
    (Pre 32%, Flop 87.0%, Turn 75.0%)

    BB wins $554

    made sick play vs napsus though lol :P

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    PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Poker Stars
    SB ($98.55)
    Hero ($171)
    UTG ($62.05)
    UTG+1 ($125)
    CO ($128)
    BTN ($424)

    BTN antes $0.10
    SB antes $0.10
    Hero antes $0.10
    UTG antes $0.10
    UTG+1 antes $0.10
    CO antes $0.10

    Dealt to Hero Q 3 K 4

    fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.50, CO calls $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, fold, Hero calls $1

    FLOP ($6.85) 7 4 3

    Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks, BTN checks

    TURN ($6.85) 7 4 3 A

    Hero bets $4.90, UTG+1 folds, CO calls $4.90, BTN folds

    RIVER ($16.65) 7 4 3 A 8

    Hero bets $11.50, CO raises to $31, Hero raises to $50.50, CO raises to $122 (AI), Hero calls $71.78

    Hero shows Q 3 K 4
    (Pre 44%, Flop 76.6%, Turn 25.0%)

    CO shows A Q 3 Q
    (Pre 56%, Flop 23.4%, Turn 75.0%)

    Hero wins $258
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    07-15-2012 , 10:07 AM
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    07-15-2012 , 10:26 AM
    lolwut

    2+2 vs 2+2 = FPS?

    Hand 1 really depends on reads, don't think he's folding a lot
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    07-15-2012 , 10:28 AM
    Why didn't you start bluffing already otf, napsus? Probably that's why Olangotang was so confident otr.
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    07-15-2012 , 10:32 AM
    let's just say i love durrrrrrrr
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    07-15-2012 , 03:15 PM
    Ever seen how durrrrrrrrrrrr plays PLO100?

    EDIT: U played it fine, but Olangotang's 3bet/call OTR... Headasplode.jpg
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    07-16-2012 , 01:04 AM
    Poker Stars $400.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
    DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

    Hero (BB): $2034.90
    BTN/SB: $1137.20

    Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BB with 7 4 3 6
    BTN/SB raises to $12, Hero raises to $37.60, BTN/SB calls $25.60

    Flop: ($75.20) A 8 4 (2 players)
    Hero bets $52.00, BTN/SB raises to $104, Hero calls $52

    Turn: ($283.20) K (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

    River: ($283.20) 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets $199.00, BTN/SB raises to $881.30, Hero raises to $1563.60, BTN/SB calls $114.30 all in

    Final Pot: $2274.40
    Hero shows 7 4 3 6
    BTN/SB shows 8 A 5 4
    BTN/SB wins $2273.90
    (Rake: $-0.30)

    Last edited by Johan5390; 07-16-2012 at 01:06 AM. Reason: dont ask
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    07-17-2012 , 08:35 PM
    Merge - $0.50 PL Hi (2 max) - Omaha - 2 players
    Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

    Hero (SB): $262.31
    BB: $50.00

    Hero posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

    Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has T Q T 5

    Hero raises to $1.00, BB raises to $3.00, Hero calls $2.00

    Flop: ($6.00, 2 players) 2 J Q
    BB bets $4.00, Hero calls $4.00

    Turn: ($14.00, 2 players) 2
    BB bets $7.00, Hero calls $7.00

    River: ($28.00, 2 players) A
    BB bets $21.00, Hero calls $21.00

    BB shows K 9 4 6 (One Pair, Twos) (Pre 42%, Flop 23%, Turn 7%)
    Hero shows T Q T 5 (Two Pair, Queens and Twos) (Pre 58%, Flop 77%, Turn 93%)
    Hero wins $69.50
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    07-18-2012 , 04:35 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GoGetaRealJob
    Ever seen how durrrrrrrrrrrr plays PLO100?

    EDIT: U played it fine, but Olangotang's 3bet/call OTR... Headasplode.jpg
    idk for several reasons i thought he had nfb and thought id go for max value, at first sight it might look weird but don't think you can criticize it when it works out

    also fwiw i wouldn't jam napsus, flat 3b>>>>jam 4b imo
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    07-18-2012 , 04:42 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Johan5390
    Poker Stars $400.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
    DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

    Hero (BB): $2034.90
    BTN/SB: $1137.20

    Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BB with 7 4 3 6
    BTN/SB raises to $12, Hero raises to $37.60, BTN/SB calls $25.60

    Flop: ($75.20) A 8 4 (2 players)
    Hero bets $52.00, BTN/SB raises to $104, Hero calls $52

    Turn: ($283.20) K (2 players)
    Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

    River: ($283.20) 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets $199.00, BTN/SB raises to $881.30, Hero raises to $1563.60, BTN/SB calls $114.30 all in

    Final Pot: $2274.40
    Hero shows 7 4 3 6
    BTN/SB shows 8 A 5 4
    BTN/SB wins $2273.90
    (Rake: $-0.30)
    ahahha johan!
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    07-18-2012 , 05:11 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Olangotang
    idk for several reasons i thought he had nfb and thought id go for max value, at first sight it might look weird but don't think you can criticize it when it works out

    also fwiw i wouldn't jam napsus, flat 3b>>>>jam 4b imo
    i wouldn't do that with nut flush would i? and you still have like 140bb to call, i thought you might be able to fold that but i had barely hit raise when you already snapped lol
    fun hand, i enjoyed it

    Last edited by napsus; 07-18-2012 at 05:59 AM.
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    07-18-2012 , 05:39 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Olangotang
    idk for several reasons i thought he had nfb and thought id go for max value, at first sight it might look weird but don't think you can criticize it when it works out

    also fwiw i wouldn't jam napsus, flat 3b>>>>jam 4b imo


    So napsus so rarely has NF here that inducing the jam is solid? Well, I'm not the one with the reads, but...

    I'm all for going with ur gut, obv
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    07-18-2012 , 09:08 AM
    Theres more to a hand then just a hh, history timings flow meta etc etc i guess u can say is feel/gut as well that made me do it. it's obv more complicated then analysing hand in a vacuum

    napsus what hands am i clicking it back there in your eyes? answer that then review your jam imo
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    07-18-2012 , 09:20 AM
    i guess not much than what you had, but often do you think i bluff the last 140bb in that spot?

    ...and based on our recent history, your river 3b/call was even more impressive.

    not exactly sure which reads you could have had that made you do that but nice job
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    07-18-2012 , 06:22 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Olangotang
    Theres more to a hand then just a hh, history timings flow meta etc etc i guess u can say is feel/gut as well that made me do it. it's obv more complicated then analysing hand in a vacuum

    napsus what hands am i clicking it back there in your eyes? answer that then review your jam imo
    Yeah there's a lot of factors to consider when contemplating a hero call.

    For instance the thought process I use before making a hero is usually this: I fold = I lose $ and more importantly my redline goes down, I call = ?????????. Ok I call hope he has one of the hands I can beat
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    07-19-2012 , 04:38 AM
    i gotta go w olang on ur hand......given the flop checked thru its much mor elikely ur bluffing/ the riv. props on sizing, love his re click back range

    u have blockers way more than you think imo

    u can thank ben lamb for that hand
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    07-19-2012 , 01:42 PM
    A little larger on turn I guess, but is river fine? no reads

      Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13564912

      BTN: $67.29 (134.6 bb)
      SB: $5.65 (11.3 bb)
      BB: $50 (100 bb)
      Hero (UTG): $50.50 (101 bb)
      MP: $51.91 (103.8 bb)
      CO: $96.64 (193.3 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with 3 K K 9
      Hero raises to $1.75, 4 folds, BB calls $1.25

      Flop: ($3.75) 5 T 4 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2.50

      Turn: ($8.75) J (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $5, BB calls $5

      River: ($18.75) 9 (2 players)
      BB bets $8, Hero raises to $41.25 and is all-in, BB calls $32.75 and is all-in

      Spoiler:
      Results: $100.25 pot ($2.50 rake)
      Final Board: 5 T 4 J 9
      BB showed 8 7 8 A and won $97.75 ($47.75 net)
      Hero showed 3 K K 9 and lost (-$50 net)



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      got snapcalled
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      07-19-2012 , 06:35 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by lifes3ps
      i gotta go w olang on ur hand......given the flop checked thru its much mor elikely ur bluffing/ the riv. props on sizing, love his re click back range

      u have blockers way more than you think imo

      u can thank ben lamb for that hand
      ?
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      07-19-2012 , 07:56 PM
      i forget where but i saw him post a comment bout if yous upect soemone on a bare A bluff raise and you hold K/Q hi flush that the best option was to click it back give them more room to put in another bet (or more)
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      07-20-2012 , 04:10 AM
      I have never heard that from ben lamb and it's the first time i ever done it/thought about doing it just the spot was pretty perfect for the cib call imo ;p
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      07-20-2012 , 04:38 AM
      how often do i need to bluffing for olango's cib call to be profitable?
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      07-20-2012 , 06:13 AM
      Assuming this is compared to ev of calling the river, >50%, because the rest of the money that goes in goes in at a ratio of 1:1.
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      07-20-2012 , 06:24 AM
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      PL Omaha $1(BB) Poker Stars
      Hero ($253)
      ($366)

      antes $0.20
      Hero antes $0.20

      Dealt to Hero A A 3 T

      raises to $3, Hero raises to $9.40, calls $6.40


      FLOP ($19.20) 9 2 K

      Hero bets $14, raises to $44, Hero calls $30

      TURN ($107) 9 2 K 4

      Hero checks, bets $66.50, Hero raises to $200 (AI), calls $133

      RIVER ($507) 9 2 K 4 9

      shows J T Q 5
      (Pre 36%, Flop 96.6%, Turn 100.0%)

      Hero shows A A 3 T
      (Pre 64%, Flop 3.4%, Turn 0.0%)

      wins $507

      oops

      this one was a success though

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      PL Omaha $1(BB) Poker Stars
      Hero ($368)
      ($505)

      antes $0.20
      Hero antes $0.20

      Dealt to Hero A 8 A 8

      raises to $3, Hero raises to $9.40, calls $6.40

      FLOP ($19.20) 3 J 6

      Hero bets $14, raises to $42.50, Hero calls $28.50

      TURN ($104) 3 J 6 9

      Hero checks, bets $64.50, Hero calls $64.50

      RIVER ($233) 3 J 6 9 5

      Hero checks, bets $144, Hero raises to $251 (AI), folds

      Hero shows A 8 A 8

      Hero wins $520

      Last edited by Olangotang; 07-20-2012 at 06:37 AM.
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