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06-20-2012 , 06:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jabonator
    Party, $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13284032

    Hero (BB): $50 (100 bb)
    BTN: $109.31 (218.6 bb)
    MP: $27.75 (55.5 bb)
    SB: $206.98 (414 bb)
    CO: $56.96 (113.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K 7 J 8
    MP calls $0.50, CO raises to $2.25, BTN folds, SB calls $2, Hero calls $1.75, MP folds

    Flop: ($7.25) 9 A T (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $5, CO calls $5, SB calls $5

    Turn: ($22.25) 4 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $15.85, SB calls $15.85, Hero calls $15.85

    River: ($69.80) T (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $26.90 and is all-in, CO folds, SB calls $26.90

    Spoiler:
    Results: $123.60 pot ($3 rake)
    Final Board: 9 A T 4 T
    Hero mucked K 7 J 8 and lost (-$50 net)
    SB showed 3 K 2 A and won $120.60 ($70.60 net)
    CO mucked and lost (-$23.10 net)



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      Party, $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13284042

      Hero (SB): $50.93 (101.9 bb)
      CO: $27.68 (55.4 bb)
      BTN: $44.85 (89.7 bb)
      MP: $37.76 (75.5 bb)
      BB: $65.52 (131 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 3 J T 8
      3 folds, Hero raises to $1, BB calls $0.50

      Flop: ($2) 3 5 7 (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.50, BB calls $1.50

      Turn: ($5) Q (2 players)
      Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

      River: ($13) A (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $9.26, Hero raises to $40.13, BB calls $30.87

      Spoiler:
      Results: $93.26 pot ($3 rake)
      Final Board: 3 5 7 Q A
      Hero showed 3 J T 8 and lost (-$46.63 net)
      BB showed 9 4 2 8 and won $90.26 ($43.63 net)



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      Hand 1 we need to be folding turn. Our equity isn't really great, and we're almost never going to be bluffing with solid intelligence on river.

      Hand 2, C/R river makes no sense. If we intend to barrel river, just bet. It folds out some of his range. This doesn't seem like a planned c/r, but rather an impulsive wtf when he bet.
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      06-20-2012 , 06:49 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by J17ster
      Hand 1 we need to be folding preflop. Our equity isn't really great, and we're almost never going to be bluffing with solid intelligence on river.

      Hand 2, C/R river makes no sense. If we intend to barrel river, just bet. It folds out some of his range. This doesn't seem like a planned c/r, but rather an impulsive wtf when he bet.
      fixed it
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      06-20-2012 , 06:57 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by ubermonk
      fixed it
      More like, fold when asked to register on poker site.

      For some reason i always skip pre-flop action in PLO strategy posts. But yes, this is more correct than Kesha's penis holder being designed for a penis.
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      06-20-2012 , 07:01 PM
      Poker Stars $200.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 4 players
      DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

      BTN: $500.00
      SB: $179.00
      Hero (BB): $515.20
      CO: $507.60

      Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with 5 8 5 J
      1 fold, BTN raises to $8.60, SB calls $7.60, Hero calls $6.60

      Flop: ($25.80) 6 2 3 (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $20.00, SB folds, Hero raises to $65, BTN calls $45

      Turn: ($155.80) A (2 players)
      Hero bets $118.00, BTN calls $118

      River: ($391.80) 4 (2 players)
      Hero bets $323.20, BTN calls $308.40 all in

      Final Pot: $1008.60
      BTN shows 6 A A 9
      Hero shows 5 8 5 J
      BTN wins $1007.40
      (Rake: $0.80)
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      06-20-2012 , 07:06 PM
      f station
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      06-20-2012 , 08:47 PM
      do u think hes folding river after calling the turn?
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      06-20-2012 , 10:18 PM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Johan5390
      Poker Stars $200.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 4 players
      DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

      BTN: $500.00
      SB: $179.00
      Hero (BB): $515.20
      CO: $507.60

      Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with 5 8 5 J
      1 fold, BTN raises to $8.60, SB calls $7.60, Hero calls $6.60

      Flop: ($25.80) 6 2 3 (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $20.00, SB folds, Hero raises to $65, BTN calls $45

      Turn: ($155.80) A (2 players)
      Hero bets $118.00, BTN calls $118

      River: ($391.80) 4 (2 players)
      Hero bets $323.20, BTN calls $308.40 all in

      Final Pot: $1008.60
      BTN shows 6 A A 9
      Hero shows 5 8 5 J
      BTN wins $1007.40
      (Rake: $0.80)
      this **** is rattling. played it really well imo just super unlucky that he binked that turn.
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      06-21-2012 , 12:39 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by hockeyhero31
      this **** is rattling. played it really well imo just super unlucky that he binked that turn.
      kind of annoying that he binked that turn, but it hink hes calling down lighter than that...he obv thinks somethings up.

      and youll get yourself into a lot of trouble x/r'ing blockers here...for got sakes you called outta the bb, ur range is hugely weighted twoards hi cards
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      06-21-2012 , 12:45 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by J17ster
      Hand 1 we need to be folding turn. Our equity isn't really great, and we're almost never going to be bluffing with solid intelligence on river.

      Hand 2, C/R river makes no sense. If we intend to barrel river, just bet. It folds out some of his range. This doesn't seem like a planned c/r, but rather an impulsive wtf when he bet.
      First hand is really spewy, I know. Felt like trying something.

      I don't get why the c/r makes no sense on the second one. His range is probably pretty draw heavy, and he'd valuebet good 2 pair, so I'd definitely c/r this with the nuts every now and then.
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      06-21-2012 , 01:08 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by lifes3ps
      do u think hes folding river after calling the turn?
      is that a joke?
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      06-21-2012 , 01:12 AM
      not. at. all.

      only hearts missed

      if anything hes calling even more because some of his Ax+fd comos hit a gutshot
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      06-21-2012 , 02:17 AM
        Party, $3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 3 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13294012

        BTN: $1,115.56 (185.9 bb)
        Hero (BB): $1,846 (307.7 bb)
        SB: $2,222.99 (370.5 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BB with 4 9 9 5
        BTN folds, SB raises to $13.50, Hero raises to $40.50, SB raises to $121.50, Hero calls $81

        Flop: ($243) 3 7 3 (2 players)
        SB bets $168, Hero calls $168

        Turn: ($579) 4 (2 players)
        SB checks, Hero bets $390, SB calls $390

        River: ($1,359) J (2 players)
        SB checks, Hero bets $1,166.50 and is all-in, SB calls $1,166.50

        Spoiler:
        Results: $3,692 pot ($2 rake)
        Final Board: 3 7 3 4 J
        Hero mucked 4 9 9 5 and lost (-$1,846 net)
        SB showed 3 J A K and won $3,690 ($1,844 net)



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        all my other bluffs work
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        06-21-2012 , 05:25 AM
        @Doorbread: did you srsly think he'd put you on a lot 654 or 3's (not 7654/6543 as you didn't raise the flop) once you called his 4bet?
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        06-21-2012 , 05:33 AM
        "reads"

        villain's trying to get me off a str8, I guess





          Poker Stars, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13294102

          BTN: $219.75 (109.9 bb)
          SB: $185.60 (92.8 bb)
          BB: $123 (61.5 bb)
          UTG: $189 (94.5 bb)
          MP: $364.95 (182.5 bb)
          Hero (CO): $411.05 (205.5 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 T 7 9
          UTG raises to $4, MP folds, Hero calls $4, 3 folds

          Flop: ($11) 8 2 4 (2 players)
          UTG bets $6, Hero calls $6

          Turn: ($23) 3 (2 players)
          UTG bets $8, Hero raises to $42.16, UTG calls $34.16

          River: ($107.32) 8 (2 players)
          UTG bets $104.52, Hero raises to $209.04, UTG calls $32.32 and is all-in

          Results: $381 pot ($2.80 rake)
          Final Board: 8 2 4 3 8
          UTG showed A J 8 K and won $378.20 ($189.20 net)
          Hero showed 9 T 7 9 and won $0.00 (-$189 net)



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          06-21-2012 , 05:57 AM
          Fwiw I think in GGaRJ's spot flop raising (and mostly shutting down if called) is more appropriate as an UTG range doesn't hit it well, for this reason he isn't repping 65 plausibly ott, otr UTG gets such seductive pot odds that he calls with pocket tens or better, so I can find only a fold otr.

          I had an itch for posting a bluff here but recalled in time that it was successful, so it will bump Maffff's rival thread, which is unfairly deserted imho.
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          06-21-2012 , 01:01 PM
          ggarj - should have worked with any other river. However, to raise after he stupidly donks nearly ai (instead of him c/c c/r) is impressive spew. I'd have loved it if it had worked and you could have put it in the other thread.
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          06-21-2012 , 02:33 PM
          Yea, I figured he either has the boat or some busted combodraw, like double FD, so giving great pot odds wouldn't matter

          I could also have a busted draw or maybe blockers and he's turning the trips into a bluff, lolz
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          06-21-2012 , 03:01 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by GoGetaRealJob
          "reads"

          villain's trying to get me off a str8, I guess





            Poker Stars, $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13294102

            BTN: $219.75 (109.9 bb)
            SB: $185.60 (92.8 bb)
            BB: $123 (61.5 bb)
            UTG: $189 (94.5 bb)
            MP: $364.95 (182.5 bb)
            Hero (CO): $411.05 (205.5 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 T 7 9
            UTG raises to $4, MP folds, Hero calls $4, 3 folds

            Flop: ($11) 8 2 4 (2 players)
            UTG bets $6, Hero calls $6

            Turn: ($23) 3 (2 players)
            UTG bets $8, Hero raises to $42.16, UTG calls $34.16

            River: ($107.32) 8 (2 players)
            UTG bets $104.52, Hero raises to $209.04, UTG calls $32.32 and is all-in

            Results: $381 pot ($2.80 rake)
            Final Board: 8 2 4 3 8
            UTG showed A J 8 K and won $378.20 ($189.20 net)
            Hero showed 9 T 7 9 and won $0.00 (-$189 net)



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            idk if i think hes trying to get you off a straight, his turn sizing looks like he picked up a draw!? so hes tryign to rep a missed fd? can he think like this? i mean id look him up w/ some single pairs

            or can he think like that?
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            06-21-2012 , 04:21 PM
            tbh, this is some rando I ran into while tryin zoom200, seemed to have reggish stats over a small sample. Hence the quation marks with "reads", had no idea he'd turn trips into a bluff in this spot, timing/sizing looked bluffy
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            06-21-2012 , 08:46 PM
            my turn.

            PokerStars - $1 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 2 players
            Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

            Hero (SB): $100.00
            BB: $69.64

            Hero posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

            Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero has 5 A A 9

            Hero raises to $2.00, BB calls $1.00

            Flop: ($4.00, 2 players) Q 4 6
            BB checks, Hero bets $2.00, BB calls $2.00

            Turn: ($8.00, 2 players) 7
            BB checks, Hero bets $6.00, BB calls $6.00

            River: ($20.00, 2 players) 5
            BB checks, Hero bets $18.00, BB raises to $37.00, Hero raises to $90.00 and is all-in, BB calls $22.64 and is all-in

            Spoiler:
            Hero shows 5 A A 9 (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 69%, Flop 40%, Turn 38%)
            BB shows 7 6 A 3 (Straight Flush, Seven High) (Pre 31%, Flop 60%, Turn 63%)
            BB wins $138.78
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            06-22-2012 , 04:24 AM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by coon74
            @Doorbread: did you srsly think he'd put you on a lot 654 or 3's (not 7654/6543 as you didn't raise the flop) once you called his 4bet?
            villain will never call without a boat or 3 and has a very narrow 4b range

            Last edited by Doorbread; 06-22-2012 at 04:29 AM.
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            06-22-2012 , 05:06 AM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Doorbread
              Party, $3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 3 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13294012

              BTN: $1,115.56 (185.9 bb)
              Hero (BB): $1,846 (307.7 bb)
              SB: $2,222.99 (370.5 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is BB with 4 9 9 5
              BTN folds, SB raises to $13.50, Hero raises to $40.50, SB raises to $121.50, Hero calls $81

              Flop: ($243) 3 7 3 (2 players)
              SB bets $168, Hero calls $168

              Turn: ($579) 4 (2 players)
              SB checks, Hero bets $390, SB calls $390

              River: ($1,359) J (2 players)
              SB checks, Hero bets $1,166.50 and is all-in, SB calls $1,166.50

              Spoiler:
              Results: $3,692 pot ($2 rake)
              Final Board: 3 7 3 4 J
              Hero mucked 4 9 9 5 and lost (-$1,846 net)
              SB showed 3 J A K and won $3,690 ($1,844 net)



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              all my other bluffs work
              Quote:
              villain will never call without a boat or 3 and has a very narrow 4b range
              i want to get to this point where i can be that confident in my reads/actaually develop these type of reads
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              06-22-2012 , 05:12 AM
              DB, the bluff would have worked if you bet 420 on the turn.
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              06-22-2012 , 05:14 AM
              Quote:
              Originally Posted by SeaKing
              DB, the bluff would have worked if you bet 420 on the turn.
              how bout, bout tree fiddy?
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              06-23-2012 , 01:09 PM
              Pwned.



                Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13308512

                SB: $33.55 (335.5 bb)
                Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)
                UTG: $10 (100 bb)
                MP: $10 (100 bb)
                CO: $5.96 (59.6 bb)
                BTN: $10.24 (102.4 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 6 4 5
                UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, CO folds, BTN calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.20

                Flop: ($1.20) 8 6 Q (4 players)
                SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $0.90, BTN calls $0.90, SB folds, Hero calls $0.90

                Turn: ($3.90) 4 (3 players)
                Hero bets $2.40, MP calls $2.40, BTN folds

                River: ($8.70) A (2 players)
                Hero bets $6.40 and is all-in, MP calls $6.40 and is all-in

                Spoiler:
                Results: $21.50 pot ($0.97 rake)
                Final Board: 8 6 Q 4 A
                Hero showed 9 6 4 5 and lost (-$10 net)
                MP showed J T 8 8 and won $20.53 ($10.53 net)



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