Small Stakes PL Omaha Discussion of 1/2 and below pot-limit Omaha poker
07-24-2012, 10:14 AM
#136
Carpal \'Tunnel
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Re: Unsuccesful Bluff Thread
Backdoor trips + backdoor straight
07-24-2012, 10:17 AM
#137
Malware Jedi
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Re: Unsuccesful Bluff Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Jabonator
Backdoor trips + backdoor straight
aha I thought I saw someone flopping queens full, but he didnīt make it to the river.
07-24-2012, 10:19 AM
#138
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Re: Unsuccesful Bluff Thread
in countries where 6high gets queens full to fold and don't have them include in the calc...
6% vs AAT4 otf
07-24-2012, 10:20 AM
#139
Malware Jedi
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Re: Unsuccesful Bluff Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by
F3rz3nd3
in countries where 6high gets queens full to fold and don't have them include in the calc...
6% vs AAT4 otf
ninja edited you
07-24-2012, 10:21 AM
#140
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Re: Unsuccesful Bluff Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Gabethebabe
ninja edited you
wp sir, wp!
07-24-2012, 08:24 PM
#141
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Re: Unsuccesful Bluff Thread
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PL Omaha $1(BB)
SB ($423)
BB ($53.28)
Hero ($161)
UTG+1 ($162)
CO ($120)
BTN ($255)
Dealt to Hero T
9
T
7
Hero raises to $3.50, UTG+1 calls $3.50, fold,
BTN raises to $15.50, fold, fold,
Hero calls $12, fold
FLOP ($36) J
5
Q
Hero checks, BTN checks
TURN ($36) J
5
Q
Q
Hero bets $21, BTN calls $21
RIVER ($78)
J 5
Q Q 3
Hero checks, BTN bets $48, Hero raises to $125 (AI), BTN calls $77.17
Hero shows
T 9
T 7
(Pre 38%, Flop 59.0%, Turn 32.5%)
BTN shows 4
K 2
K
(Pre 62%, Flop 41.0%, Turn 67.5%)
BTN wins $325
07-25-2012, 11:49 AM
#142
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Re: Unsuccesful Bluff Thread
Once I raise the flop can I fold?
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $1.44 USD ) - VPIP: 13, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 0.5, Hands: 24
Seat 2: Player2 ( $6.87 USD ) - VPIP: 56, PFR: 34, 3B: 21, AF: 6.9, Hands: 126
Seat 3: Player3 ( $5.61 USD ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 15, 3B: 8, AF: 1.6, Hands: 226
Seat 4: Player4 ( $6.79 USD ) - VPIP: 22, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 41
Seat 5: Player5 ( $8.04 USD ) - VPIP: 30, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 1.7, Hands: 113
Seat 6: Hero ( $4.58 USD ) - VPIP: 30, PFR: 24, 3B: 15, AF: 3.7, Hands: 816
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#13567902
MP: $1.44 (36 bb)
CO: $6.87 (171.8 bb)
BTN: $5.61 (140.3 bb)
SB: $6.79 (169.8 bb)
BB: $8.04 (201 bb)
Hero (UTG): $4.58 (114.5 bb)
Preflop : Hero is UTG with 6
J
9
J
Hero raises to $0.12 ,
MP folds ,
CO raises to $0.32 , 3 folds, Hero calls $0.20
Flop : ($0.70) 8
T
9
(2 players)
Hero checks,
CO bets $0.52 ,
Hero raises to $2.26 ,
CO raises to $6.55 and is all-in , Hero calls $2 and is all-in
Turn : ($9.22) 7
(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River : ($9.22) K
(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Spoiler :
Results: $9.22 pot ($0.46 rake)
Final Board: 8
T
9
7
K
CO showed A
8
J
Q
and won $8.76 ($4.18 net)
Hero showed 6
J
9
J
and lost (-$4.58 net)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $1.38 USD ) - VPIP: 13, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 0.5, Hands: 24
Seat 2: Player2 ( $11.33 USD ) - VPIP: 56, PFR: 34, 3B: 21, AF: 6.9, Hands: 126
Seat 3: Player3 ( $5.61 USD ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 15, 3B: 8, AF: 1.6, Hands: 226
Seat 4: Player4 ( $6.83 USD ) - VPIP: 22, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 41
Seat 5: Player5 ( $7.80 USD ) - VPIP: 30, PFR: 18, 3B: 6, AF: 1.7, Hands: 113
Seat 6: Hero ( $4.00 USD ) - VPIP: 30, PFR: 24, 3B: 15, AF: 3.7, Hands: 816
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#13567912
BTN: $1.38 (34.5 bb)
SB: $11.33 (283.3 bb)
BB: $5.61 (140.3 bb)
UTG: $6.83 (170.8 bb)
MP: $7.80 (195 bb)
Hero (CO): $4 (100 bb)
Preflop : Hero is CO with 7
K
5
K
UTG folds ,
MP raises to $0.14 ,
Hero raises to $0.36 , 3 folds, MP calls $0.22
Flop : ($0.78) A
Q
J
(2 players)
MP checks,
Hero bets $0.44 , MP calls $0.44
Turn : ($1.66) 4
(2 players)
MP checks,
Hero bets $0.88 , MP calls $0.88
River : ($3.42) 2
(2 players)
MP checks,
Hero bets $2.32 and is all-in , MP calls $2.32
Spoiler :
Results: $8.06 pot ($0.40 rake)
Final Board: A
Q
J
4
2
MP showed 9
9
Q
Q
and won $7.66 ($3.66 net)
Hero showed 7
K
5
K
and lost (-$4 net)
07-25-2012, 02:30 PM
#143
Spews for redline's sake
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Re: Unsuccesful Bluff Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Hackdeath
No point jamming last hand, I doubt he b/f 2 pair+ that he decided to bet otr on this runout so call>jam imo.
I wouldn't be so sure he doesn't b/f top two or a set there. I think if we decide it's +EV to call, it will usually be more +EV to raise. Hero's hand looks a lot like overpair / 2p when we get to river and check and when we c/r it makes no sense for us to have anything but 78 unless we have blockers and a kamikaze instinct.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Olangotang
Villain quite passive call stationy
why bluff then?
I think it's a good bluff vs anyone since we have very little sd value, have bet every street strong so far so straight or set is credible, so many draws missed and a passive player can also make some weak 2p or even strong 2p/set peels only to fold to big bet on river.
07-30-2012, 06:04 AM
#144
adept
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Posts: 874
Re: Unsuccesful Bluff Thread
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Galervo80 ($81.18)
JUSTUS ($119)
JUSTUS posts (SB) $0.50
Galervo80 posts (BB) $1
Dealt to
JUSTUS *
**
**
**
*
JUSTUS raises to $3
Galervo80 calls $2
[FLOP] ($6)*
**
**
*
Galervo80 checks
JUSTUS bets $4
Galervo80 calls $4
[TURN] ($14)*
**
**
**
*
Galervo80 checks
JUSTUS bets $13.50
Galervo80 calls $13.50
[RIVER] ($41)*
**
**
**
**
*
Galervo80 checks
JUSTUS bets $34
Galervo80 calls $34
JUSTUS shows*
**
**
**
*
(Pre 53%,
[FLOP] 51.1%,
[TURN] 0.0%)
Galervo80 shows*
**
**
**
*
(Pre 47%,
[FLOP] 48.9%,
[TURN] 100.0%)
Galervo80 wins $108
07-30-2012, 08:48 AM
#145
centurion
Join Date: May 2009
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Re: Unsuccesful Bluff Thread
^ I also always tend to play high card quads, its just too ****** baller
10-02-2012, 05:58 AM
#146
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Re: Unsuccesful Bluff Thread
I'm bumping by an epic spew that turned an awesome session into ashes.
The table was infested by TAGs (all but LAG SB). I had only PF stats displayed - 22/16/1.7 (150 hs), 87% fold to steal for BTN - but failed to look up that his BTN 3bet was 9.1% and flop cbet was merely 40%, hence my flop grave mistake - not donking (I was obv c/valueshoving).
I vbet(/folded) the turn but an atrocious river came, still I thought his image was way too tight, WTSD/W$SD=29/70.
Do I take it right that a timing tell contributed to my fail - I tanked like 5 sec before shoving (my previous actions were only a bit faster)? I normally take the same time before shoving for value, but this opp could be unaware of it.
That wasn't the main factor ofc - it's more important that I wasn't repping the nuts, and BTN's range didn't contain 9-6 as he didn't shove the turn. I was too tired after 400 hands to think it over, alas there had been no clear signals for closing the session before this hand.
Was the river bluff stupid? I thought my weak two pairs were basically air on this board, and there were two-pair hands to be folded out. I struggle with gutshot boards, think that I play them way too weak-tight and thus seek move-making spots - which ones do you find appropriate?
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CO: $79.53 (318.1 bb)
BTN: $25 (100 bb)
SB: $8.88 (35.5 bb)
BB: $25.35 (101.4 bb)
UTG: $13.43 (53.7 bb)
Hero (MP): $30.74 (123 bb)
Preflop : Hero is MP with 8
T
6
7
UTG folds ,
Hero raises to $0.85 ,
CO folds ,
BTN raises to $2.90 , 2 folds, Hero calls $2.05
Flop : ($6.15) 8
7
K
(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks
Turn : ($6.15) T
(2 players)
Hero bets $6.15 , BTN calls $6.15
River : ($18.45) J
(2 players)
Hero bets $18.45 , BTN calls $15.95 and is all-in
Spoiler :
Results: $50.35 pot ($2.51 rake)
Final Board: 8
7
K
T
J
BTN showed A
T
8
9
and won $47.84 ($22.84 net)
Hero showed 8
T
6
7
and lost (-$25 net)
10-03-2012, 06:09 AM
#147
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Re: Unsuccesful Bluff Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Mad Twatter
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PL Omaha $1(BB)
SB ($423)
BB ($53.28)
Hero ($161)
UTG+1 ($162)
CO ($120)
BTN ($255)
Dealt to Hero T
9
T
7
Hero raises to $3.50, UTG+1 calls $3.50, fold,
BTN raises to $15.50, fold, fold,
Hero calls $12, fold
FLOP ($36) J
5
Q
Hero checks, BTN checks
TURN ($36) J
5
Q
Q
Hero bets $21, BTN calls $21
RIVER ($78)
J 5
Q Q 3
Hero checks, BTN bets $48, Hero raises to $125 (AI), BTN calls $77.17
Hero shows
T 9
T 7
(Pre 38%, Flop 59.0%, Turn 32.5%)
BTN shows 4
K 2
K
(Pre 62%, Flop 41.0%, Turn 67.5%)
BTN wins $325
WOW i HATE HIS PLAY THERE
10-05-2012, 10:23 PM
#148
stranger
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 8
Re: Unsuccesful Bluff Thread
i guess the bluff was unccessfull, but the result wasnt?
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#14080172
BTN: $265.80 (265.8 bb)
SB: $220.11 (220.1 bb)
BB: $215.79 (215.8 bb)
Hero (UTG): $158.25 (158.3 bb)
MP: $100 (100 bb)
CO: $49 (49 bb)
Preflop : Hero is UTG with Q
T
J
T
Hero raises to $3 ,
MP folds , CO calls $3, 2 folds,
BB raises to $12.50 , Hero calls $9.50,
CO folds
Flop : ($28.50) A
6
4
(2 players)
BB bets $17.69 ,
Hero raises to $42 , BB calls $24.31
Turn : ($112.50) 3
(2 players)
BB checks,
Hero bets $103.75 and is all-in , BB calls $103.75
River : ($320) Q
(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Spoiler :
Results: $320 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: A
6
4
3
Q
BB showed 8
7
J
K
and lost (-$158.25 net)
Hero showed Q
T
J
T
and won $317.20 ($158.95 net)
12-17-2012, 09:49 PM
#149
centurion
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 130
Re: Unsuccesful Bluff Thread
At first I was value betting then I knew he had a flush so I had to bluff. Note to self don't bluff this donk. What I find intresting is if he had bottom set I would have won. Did I play this bad? How come it wasn't believable or is he just a POW.
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#15037981
Hero (BB): $195.88 (391.8 bb)
SB: $98.99 (198 bb)
Preflop : Hero is BB with 7
5
7
A
SB completes,
Hero raises to $1.50 , SB calls $1
Flop : ($3) 7
9
2
(2 players)
Hero bets $2 , SB calls $2
Turn : ($7) J
(2 players)
Hero bets $4.67 , SB calls $4.67
River : ($16.34) A
(2 players)
Hero bets $10.90 ,
SB raises to $49.04 ,
Hero raises to $163.46 , SB calls $41.78
Spoiler :
Results: $197.98 pot ($0.50 rake)
Final Board: 7
9
2
J
A
Hero showed 7
5
7
A
and lost (-$98.99 net)
SB showed 9
J
9
K
and won $197.48 ($98.49 net)
12-17-2012, 09:55 PM
#150
Pooh-Bah
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Posts: 5,607
Re: Unsuccesful Bluff Thread
damn lol
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