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03-18-2015 , 12:11 PM
I totally messed up this hand, but what should i do?

Is the 3bet okay? Should i fold to the 4bet? And finally whats our line on flop?

PS. if anyone would like to tell me how to convert the hands from holdemmanger, that would be awesome?????

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Poker Stars)
$5.00 USD PL Omaha - Wednesday, March 18, 11:59:48 ET 2015
Table Lynx (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $18.59 USD ) - VPIP: 23, PFR: 15, 3B: 3, AF: 1,8, Hands: 120
Seat 2: Hero ( $7.77 USD ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 11, 3B: 3, AF: 3,1, Hands: 41517
Seat 3: Player3 ( $3.06 USD ) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 3
Seat 4: Player4 ( $15.38 USD ) - VPIP: 100, PFR: 67, 3B: 0, AF: 0,5, Hands: 3
Seat 5: Player5 ( $6.60 USD ) - VPIP: 16, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 19
Seat 6: Player6 ( $5.38 USD ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 12, 3B: 5, AF: 1,8, Hands: 94
Hero posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
Player3 posts big blind [$0.05 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Q T T J ]
Player4 raises [$0.17 USD]
Player5 folds
Player6 calls [$0.17 USD]
Player1 folds
Hero raises [$0.71 USD]
Player3 folds
Player4 calls [$0.56 USD]
Player6 raises [$2.80 USD]
Hero calls [$2.24 USD]
Player4 calls [$2.24 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9, 3, 2 ]
Hero checks
Player4 checks
Player6 bets [$2.41 USD]
Hero ???
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03-18-2015 , 12:22 PM
Flat pre, this hand has a ton of value multi-way with high SPR. I'd like a 3bet better if we were like 200bb deep and had position.

As played call the 4bet only because we know exactly what Villain's range is (AA). If we flop enough equity we can get it in.

However, we did not flop enough equity. Fold.
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03-18-2015 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by xmadsax
Is the 3bet okay? Should i fold to the 4bet? And finally whats our line on flop?
Your hand has less than 50% equity if someone is opening 50% of hands so I don't think it's strong enough to 3-bet.
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03-18-2015 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by au4all
Your hand has less than 50% equity if someone is opening 50% of hands so I don't think it's strong enough to 3-bet.
Definitely this. Low pocket pairs on draw-y hands are also never the best. This hand is sort of an exception but JT88/JT99 are much worse.
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03-19-2015 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by au4all
Your hand has less than 50% equity if someone is opening 50% of hands so I don't think it's strong enough to 3-bet.
why would you state blantantly wrong information? not cool.

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600,000 trials (Randomized)
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
ThTsJdQd55.12% 326,0009,492
50%44.88% 264,5089,492


that being said I dont think this is a particularly good spot to squeeze. call 4bet and fold flop as played
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03-19-2015 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by xmadsax
Seat 4: Player4 ( $15.38 USD ) - VPIP: 100, PFR: 67, 3B: 0, AF: 0,5, Hands: 3
I flat pre to start but I would keep on these stats. There are players at the lowest levels of micros that just continually pot it up preflop. Against that type of player I think your hand is a must 3bet.
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